Transfer Window Speculation

[Gethin]

Just now, psl said:

Diaz has won leagues 2 years in a row and scored 15 goals in 32 last year. 

The first one he time-shared a starting role with Gakpo

The second one was in a league that's a big step down from the PL, playing for a team that's got a massive in-built advantage over its rivals. 

[Clay Davis]

Sarr is a goalscorer but he’s a very limited player. He is also only really suited to a direct system.

At that price point, at that age, he’d be an incredibly odd signing. Usually I see the logic in what we do, even if I don’t agree with it, but this one would feel illogical.

[psl]

2 minutes ago, Gethin said:

The first one he time-shared a starting role with Gakpo

The second one was in a league that's a big step down from the PL, playing for a team that's got a massive in-built advantage over its rivals. 

So winning leagues isn't evidence of being good enough to win leagues?

[faithnomore]

Palace are in for Neil ElAnyaoui. We should cut out the middleman and go for him 

[Stevie]

I really am starting to think that someone internal at the club is trying to f*** us up. All this is beyond stupid if they think swapping Gakpo for Sarr is a good trade

[psl]

Surely you'd go back for Minteh rather than Sarr? 

[Hus]

7 minutes ago, FakeNewsBear said:

Gakpo’s gone. Barcola’s in. Right wing is still an open wound we’ve refused to treat. Sarr might dull the pain, but he’s not the cure.

We need someone with genuine world class potential.

This can’t be it. Can it?

Feels like we have been here lots of times...

You know the most likely outcome. 

(I don't mean with you by the way, but I'm sure you know that)

[Martinus]

Look Minteh isn’t brilliant but allegedly Brighton want £80 million. He’s 22 and better than Sarr who is 28. At least if Minteh doesn’t work out we can sell him on. Sarr will have no resale value. 

[RedHarvest]

Is Rayan ungettable this window?

[psl]

Wonder how much they would want for Schade.

[EC_Red]

It has to be Rayan. I can't imagine we'd be strengthening City if we didn't feel that we're coming out ahead indirectly.

[Gethin]

4 minutes ago, psl said:

So winning leagues isn't evidence of being good enough to win leagues?

So I said 

11 minutes ago, Gethin said:

Neither is consistently good enough to be a starter for a team serious about winning leagues

Neither was consistently a starter for us in the season we won the PL. Mo started pretty much every game and won that league for us with a worldie of a season. 

https://www.anfield-online.co.uk/stats/2024-25/2024-25-lfc-stats.html

What Diaz did with Bayern is irrelevant. He didn't suddenly become good enough to be a starter for us by winning a lower quality league with Bayern, that's just a daft argument. 

 

 

[Swipe]

That Senegalese journo says Ndiaye at Everton is another of our options so I think we can rule him out as a source 

[psl]

Just now, Gethin said:

So I said 

Neither was consistently a starter for us in the season we won the PL. Mo started pretty much every game and won that league for us with a worldie of a season. 

https://www.anfield-online.co.uk/stats/2024-25/2024-25-lfc-stats.html

What Diaz did with Bayern is irrelevant. He didn't suddenly become good enough to be a starter for us by winning a lower quality league with Bayern, that's just a daft argument. 

 

 

Do you think he is better than Trossard? Martinelli? Madueke?

[faithnomore]

Indy has our brave boys working hard on William Gomes and Kone 

[Gethin]

7 minutes ago, psl said:

Do you think he is better than Trossard? Martinelli? Madueke?

Don't be daft here. 

Do you think he's of the standard of Mane? Cos that's what we should be aspiring to 

Out failings aren't that we've got rid of players that aren't quite good enough, it's that we've not replaced them with players that are better. 

 

Edited 11 minutes ago by Gethin

[psl]

1 minute ago, Gethin said:

Don't be daft here. 

Do you think he's of the standard of Mane? Cos that's what we should be apspiring to 

Out failings aren't that we've got rid of players that aren't quite good enough, it's that we've not replaced them with players that are better. 

 

Well if none of Gakpo, Diaz, Martinelli, Madueke and Trossard are good enough to win the Premier League, that rules out 5 wingers in the last 2 years who actually won the Premier League.

Gakpo and Diaz are more than good enough to be in a league winning side and have shown that. Not every player in a league winning team will be Salah and Van Dijk. They both more than played their part.

[Kvarme Ate My Food]

Stinks of Lynx Africa in here.

[Nathan Explosion]

8 minutes ago, psl said:

Do you think he is better than Trossard? Martinelli? Madueke?

Way down in Kokomo? All this time-sharing chat makes me want to fecking move.

[Begbie]

£80m odd for Gakpo is brilliant. He's part of our problem not our answer, City fans will be gutted. The boss is clearly happy to get rid

Need to spend the money wisely which is the bigger issue.

[Swipe]

Surely there’s something exciting and surprising in store. This can’t all be to just get some 28 year old lad who was off to galatasary a few weeks ago in. 

[psl]

Just now, Begbie said:

£80m odd for Gakpo is brilliant. He's part of our problem not our answer, City fans will be gutted. The boss is clearly happy to get rid

Need to spend the money wisely which is the bigger issue.

They sold Savinho for 75m on the back of 2 goals in 53 appearances.

[Rusty Shackleford]

I cannot think of a player i want less than Sarr. Seems like an utter waste of money.

[Gethin]

Just now, psl said:

Well if none of Gakpo, Diaz, Martinelli, Madueke and Trossard are good enough to win the Premier League, that rules out 5 wingers in the last 2 years who actually won the Premier League.

Gakpo and Diaz are more than good enough to be in a league winning side and have shown that. Not every player in a league winning team will be Salah and Van Dijk. They both more than played their part.

You're not very good at reading what's actually been written are you? 

I said that they both played their part - 'cos both of them had good patches of form when the other was struggling. But neither player has been good enough over their Liverpool career to be a consistent first choice player in the same way that Mane or Salah was.

You can apply the same argument to the Arsenal players you mentioned. It's pretty telling that Trossard is gone, Martinelli will almost certainly be gone by the end of the window and I think we'd all baulk at signing Madueke 

 

And once again - with feeling - the issue here isn't getting shot of players like Diaz and Gakpo, it's that we've not replaced them with better. 

[psl]

Just now, Gethin said:

You're not very good at reading what's actually been written are you? 

I said that they both played their part - 'cos both of them had good patches of form when the other was struggling. But neither player has been good enough over their Liverpool career to be a consistent first choice player in the same way that Mane or Salah was.

You can apply the same argument to the Arsenal players you mentioned. It's pretty telling that Trossard is gone, Martinelli will almost certainly be gone by the end of the window and I think we'd all baulk at signing Madueke 

 

No you seem to be suggesting that a player is only good enough to win tje league if they are good enough to carry the side over a whole season. Which has never been how leagues are won or how squads have been built.

Gakpo apparently isn't good enough but the most successful side of the last 10 years want him and we are linked with players who aren't as good.