StevieC Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/premier-league-manchester-city-pay-johnson-123232425.html Now that is a fall from grace even Stephen Ireland would be proud of...
Stanley Leisure Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 He's like a footballing Mikey "Lotto Lout" Carroll.
Earl Hafler Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 Hasn't played for them for 3 years, during which time they've paid him about £6m. That's why Greggs are doing do well...
Sir Tokyo Sexwale Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 I mean, I know a lot of players aren't that bright & stuff, but you'd think there'd be some motivation even in just not losing your massive wage
stressederic Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 I don't understand. Has that chap on the left eaten the one on the right?
Hassony Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 I don't understand. Has that chap on the left eaten the one on the right? no Both pictures are of the same guy, Michael Johnson , due to injuries and his love of a pint and lack of professionalism his weight has ballooned to what you now see in the picture on the left
Ostrich Man Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 he'll have no money left before you know it...I see Lee Hendrie was declared bankrupt this month.
Bigal Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 Supposedly he hated the game and has well before the contract was signed.
Cobs Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 he'll have no money left before you know it...I see Lee Hendrie was declared bankrupt this month. didn't know that
matty Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 Quite sad really. Maybe too immature to keep his head straight. Don't feel sorry for him as he's had an opportunity there and money that is beyond most people's imagining, but still sad. didn't know thatThat however is even worse. Duty of care somewhere, ffs.
Rory Fitzgerald Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 Why would he accept a pay-off ? Could City seek to terminate through breach of contract if he didnt agree ? Its unlikely he will get a decent contract anywhere else so why settle ?
Cobs Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 Why would he accept a pay-off ? Could City seek to terminate through breach of contract if he didnt agree ? Its unlikely he will get a decent contract anywhere else so why settle ? guess he still has to turn up to training and such if he remains a City player - if he really is finished with the game then he can take a reduced lump sum and get himself down to Greggs for the foreseeable
Rimbeux Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) Indeed, even if it's just a few months short, why see it out? Interesting he took it now and not after April 1, but again, same thing likely, if he's done with it, 5% is neither here nor there Edited January 15, 2013 by Rimbeux
Sir Tokyo Sexwale Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 Quite sad really. Maybe too immature to keep his head straight. Don't feel sorry for him as he's had an opportunity there and money that is beyond most people's imagining, but still sad. That however is even worse. Duty of care somewhere, ffs. it is kind of mental, I know you can do as you please but surely clubs should have some kind of mandatory financial training for players? Or a way of deferring some of their salary until later years, or something. Young lads, not too bright, loads of cash. You can see where it goes wrong. Same in many sports
Bigal Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) Why would he accept a pay-off ? Could City seek to terminate through breach of contract if he didnt agree ? Its unlikely he will get a decent contract anywhere else so why settle ? Guessing of course, but if he kept getting fined for not turning up etc. makes financial sense to take a deal I suppose it is kind of mental, I know you can do as you please but surely clubs should have some kind of mandatory financial training for players? Or a way of deferring some of their salary until later years, or something. Young lads, not too bright, loads of cash. You can see where it goes wrong. Same in many sports There was someone on a TAW podcast who is looking to help on cases like this Edited January 15, 2013 by Bigal
Cobs Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 Indeed, even if it's just a few months short, why see it out? Interesting he took it now and not after April 1, but again, same thing likely, if he's done with it, 5% is neither here nor there 5yr deal in 2009 means there's 18 months left at least, no?
Rimbeux Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 it is kind of mental, I know you can do as you please but surely clubs should have some kind of mandatory financial training for players? Or a way of deferring some of their salary until later years, or something. Young lads, not too bright, loads of cash. You can see where it goes wrong. Same in many sports It seems Hendry wasn't simply badly advised, rather those looking after his business interests over-leveraged and couldn't see it through the financial crisis. A lot of people did the same, people who thought they knew what was what, were experienced and were hands on. Maybe there is something in him being too trusting when told things would be fine, but difficult to say what could have saved him. 5yr deal in 2009 means there's 18 months left at least, no?Yeh, I meant if instead of 18, he was offered 12-15 to go, why not if he hates it and is done with it.
surf Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 I almost signed him on footy manager once. Glad i had the foresight not to.
Rory Fitzgerald Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) Could it be better for 'tax' purposes ? If he keeps earning until the end of his contract, he gets taxed at about 50%, isn't that the higher tax rate in the UK ? If he is '...made redundant', would his settlement be taxed at a different rate ? Edited January 15, 2013 by Rory Fitzgerald
Rimbeux Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 Could it be better for 'tax' purposes ? If he keeps earning until the end of his contract, he gets taxed at about 50%, isn't that the higher tax rate in the UK ? If he is '...made redundant', would his settlement be taxed at a different rate ?If he had waited till April, the pay off would have attracted 45%, this year it's still at 50%. Think there is a 30k cap on tax free element of pay offs
Cobs Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 Could it be better for 'tax' purposes ? If he keeps earning until the end of his contract, he gets taxed at about 50%, isn't that the higher tax rate in the UK ? If he is '...made redundant', would his settlement be taxed at a different rate ? he's not been made redundant
Benzo-13 Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 I don't understand. Has that chap on the left eaten the one on the right?They should put him into Pro Evo like that.
Rory Fitzgerald Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 he's not been made redundant I know, but what I was trying to get at is that perhaps there is different tax treatment for this arrangement.
Cobs Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 I know, but what I was trying to get at is that perhaps there is different tax treatment for this arrangement. very much doubt it and at the levels we're talking about nothing that would make a huge difference i recall some instances of termination of contracts qualifying as tax free for the first £30k but that's pretty small potatoes here. Don't see how he would qualify for an ex-gratia payment for services rendered. this will be to allow him to take a one off payment and move on with his life away from City, wherever that leads.
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