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Think that was down to the manager (what have i got in this envelope!) rather than the players.

The back 5 was solid (apart from LB). Gerrard was still great, Leiva was solid if not spectacular. Suarez scored 30 odd in Sturridge's first season. Sterling was young, but hey, we had Stewart Downing as well! So yeah, i reckon that lot would beat our current lot.

Was it though? I reckon this lot would beat our current lads. ------- reina----- johnson - carra - agger - enrique --- leiva -- henderson --- sterling gerrard suarez ---- sturridge EDIT: i do agree with your point though, our young stars Fowler, Owen, Suarez, Sturridge, Mo... everyone who is good was good from the get go. I don't see many that start out average and suddenly explode into greatness

We sure as hell need a good winger on each side, I thought this was one-side-fixed

Araujo looks good and i'd rather spend 50m on someone we know is great than take a 50m risk on midfielder who might be average. Araujo + Jacquet is potentially us set up at CB for the next 5 years.

I'm not sure what you mean by whether they've played fair since then is irrelevant. You want to expunge all their trophies up to 2018? Or all of them? They've "obviously" cheated since 2018 as well. And everything they've done up to 2018 as allowed them to win stuff after (that might be what you mean by irrelevant?). It's like they're been prosecuted and found guilty on half the things they've done and the other half hasnt been looked into yet.

And then investigate them again for the period 2018-now.

cheats

our counter attacks are weak as f***, it lacks the klopp incisiveness

Well there’s evidence now. Or can’t they be tried twice for the same crime like in the movies?

So these fake accounts probably extend to Europe as well right? Take that CL title from them as well.

well, we're next...

It wasn't a good idea and i agree with your earlier point that FSG should aim for the highest possible punishment. In fact, so should all clubs that do play by the rules.

Wasn’t the super league supposed to have some American style wage caps that would level the playing field? Perhaps I’m misremembering…

It's not enough. If we're going to do 30 point punishments and a £150m fine, do that for each year they've cheated. So a 30 point reduction for the next 10? years and a £1.5 billion fine. Add in a 10 year transfer ban as well.

I'm sure he'll be sending the criminal money he was paid in wages back then... or to put it another way, without the $$$ he wouldn’t have been there in the first place

And a transfer ban equal to the length of cheating, so 10 years.

Strip their titles, drop them 3 divisions and transfer ban for as long as they cheated.

I feel personally aggrieved by their cheating, it’s caused me emotional harm. I ought to sue them. We should start a class action lawsuit for a gazillions pounds.

f*** YOU MAN CITY

Pavlovic is a bit of a bell

To be fair, I figured out I’m constantly wrong so am now predicting losses. Taking one for the team.

21 years old, 6 appearances, 1 goal. By his age, Owen and Fowler were on three 20 goal seasons each. Harshly based on that I think he’ll end up at a mid table premiership club at best. Feels harsh to “write him off” (need though mid table premiership makes a pretty good career), but thought I’d nail my flag to the mast early. i think I’m bottom of Nathan’s prediction league, so what do i know though…

He needs to eat a can of spinach before every game so he shoots with more power than an 8 year old.