Bent Mancs

[floyd]

I believe Dave Usher has been bnanging this drum for ages, how the Mancs manage to get the youngsters to sign for them, believe he mentioned it when we lost out to that Cofie, who was at Burnley.

Finally out in the public now.

 

 

Manchester United accused over Federico Macheda deal

 

James Ducker

Manchester United have been accused of “bribing” the parents of Federico Macheda and turning football into a “cattle market”. Claudio Lotito, the Lazio president, is outraged at the manner in which he claims the Barclays Premier League champions lured the Italian teenager to Old Trafford.

 

Macheda announced his arrival in English football on Sunday when the 17-year-old substitute scored a breathtaking stoppage-time winner on his United debut to secure a 3-2 win at home to Aston Villa that returned the club to the top of the table.

 

But while Sir Alex Ferguson and Cristiano Ronaldo led the tributes to the young striker yesterday, Lotito has called for a change to the rules that prevent Italian clubs from tying a player under the age of 18 to a contract, claiming that United acted unethically when they signed Macheda from Lazio's youth academy in August 2007, the day after his 16th birthday.

 

United said that they would “not dignify such claims with a response” and there are no suggestions of any rule breaking on their part.

 

“It is unthinkable and unacceptable that a 15-year-old should be bought as if we were at a cattle market,” Lotito said. “They get the parents on board, giving them handsome compensation, offering them important jobs, which shouldn't happen, because with a 15-year-old it's unthinkable that a club should give millions of euros to his parents, practically buying the parents, and this is a real problem.

 

“The parents sign on behalf of the players. Normally these are kids who come from not very well-off families and on the back of their economic situation they are incentivised to find alternative economic situations.

 

“We tried in every way to stop Manchester United from taking our players, but the present Italian regulations don't give you any type of defence. We have to be provided with more reliable and concrete rules than those which govern Italian clubs.”

 

The Times

[Stevie H]

trouble is they're not technically breaking any rules or laws are they?

[The walters step over]

Arsene Wenger has been doing it for years, it's one of the main reasons why Arsenal have one of the lowest expenditures on transfers amongst top European clubs whilst also having one of the highest wage bills.

 

Giving big bags of cash to 15 year old boys to stop them signing contracts with the clubs that have educated and looked after them for 6 or 7 years is now part of football, Wenger actually tries to take the moral high ground against the big spending clubs whilst doing it.

 

The other side to the coin is this, if this summer we gave half a million to some family in Belgium so that we could bring their son over to Merseyside and he turns into the next Messi - would we still have a problem with it?

[The Hitman]

To be honest,I don't see any rule-breaking here.

Time to move on....

[Leo No.8]

Isn't this pretty much what we've done with the likes of Pacheco and Bruna?

[Andy @ Allerton]

Every league should have the same rules.

 

Only way you can stop it.

[Ramón Benítez Hernández]

To be honest,I don't see any rule-breaking here.

Time to move on....

 

 

Neither do I, but I still think they should be docked 60 points.

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

no - they should be stripped of all of their assets and all current and past staff, whether playing staff or backroom, banned from football for life

[Sion]

Arsene Wenger has been doing it for years, it's one of the main reasons why Arsenal have one of the lowest expenditures on transfers amongst top European clubs whilst also having one of the highest wage bills.

 

Giving big bags of cash to 15 year old boys to stop them signing contracts with the clubs that have educated and looked after them for 6 or 7 years is now part of football, Wenger actually tries to take the moral high ground against the big spending clubs whilst doing it.

 

The other side to the coin is this, if this summer we gave half a million to some family in Belgium so that we could bring their son over to Merseyside and he turns into the next Messi - would we still have a problem with it?

 

we probably already do it, how'd you think we got Pacheco to sign for us?

 

what's the name of that young Belgian lad mentioned on here a few weeks ago who's supposed to be brilliant btw? think he was Belgian anyway, the one who looked about 25 years old.

[John am Rhein]

no - they should be stripped of all of their assets and all current and past staff, whether playing staff or backroom, banned from football for life

 

and expunged from the record

[cymrococh]

This has been happening in various guises forever, Lazio taking the moral high ground on anything is sickening.

 

The Mancs should definitely be banned from anything though.

[drdooom]

“It is unthinkable and unacceptable that a 15-year-old should be bought as if we were at a cattle market,” Lotito said. “They get the parents on board, giving them handsome compensation, offering them important jobs, which shouldn't happen, because with a 15-year-old it's unthinkable that a club should give millions of euros to his parents, practically buying the parents, and this is a real problem.

 

“The parents sign on behalf of the players. Normally these are kids who come from not very well-off families and on the back of their economic situation they are incentivised to find alternative economic situations.

 

If a club wants to give a less well off family jobs and lots of money to have their kid doing something he wants to do then what's bad about that?

It's only a problem if Lazio aren't allowed to do it and Manchester United are.

[Leo No.8]

Lazio taking the moral high ground on anything is sickening.

 

The Lazio President signed off his press conference in which he questioned the morals of Manchester United and other clubs by giving the facist salute and kissing the photo of Adolf Hitler he carries in his pocket...

Edited April 8, 2009 by Leo No.8

[ManxRed]

The Lazio President signed off his press conference in which he questioned the morals of Manchester United and other clubs by giving the facist salute and kissing the photo of Adolf Hitler he carries in his pocket...

 

...before leaving the building and exercising his God given right to stab an English football supporter in the buttocks.

[Maldini]

we probably already do it, how'd you think we got Pacheco to sign for us?

 

what's the name of that young Belgian lad mentioned on here a few weeks ago who's supposed to be brilliant btw? think he was Belgian anyway, the one who looked about 25 years old.

 

Eden Hazard. FWIW it is illegal to make payments to a players parents or to pay anyone under 17 anything for playing football in England. We haven't done it.

[growler]

I think its ridiculous that countries across europe have different rules. Whats the motivation for putting effort into players? Pique, Merida, Cesc and Pacheco from Barca alone. Imagine if they kept them, and brought them through with Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol, Messi?

 

It should be a standard across europe, so that at least the original club is compensated.

 

Flipped the other way, how would we feel if Barca had taken Owen, Gerrard and Fowler before they were in the first team?

[muleskinner]

I think its ridiculous that countries across europe have different rules. Whats the motivation for putting effort into players? Pique, Merida, Cesc and Pacheco from Barca alone. Imagine if they kept them, and brought them through with Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol, Messi?

 

It should be a standard across europe, so that at least the original club is compensated.

 

Flipped the other way, how would we feel if Barca had taken Owen, Gerrard and Fowler before they were in the first team?

 

Cesc? Are you a gooner?

[growler]

Cesc? Are you a gooner?

 

no, I didn't realise that you had to be a supporter of club to like a player. I thought as liverpool fans we were allowed to be more intelligent than the others?

[muleskinner]

no, I didn't realise that you had to be a supporter of club to like a player. I thought as liverpool fans we were allowed to be more intelligent than the others?

 

[Flight]

no, I didn't realise that you had to be a supporter of club to like a player. I thought as liverpool fans we were allowed to be more intelligent than the others?

 

 

You like Fabregas ? He's a horrible snide little c***.

 

 

Or do you mean players with some skill. As then we'll be discussing the merits of Rio, Gaz, Ronny, Lamps and Wazza ?