Andy @ Allerton

This is a picture of Vic with Kev, Dave and Marjo at the YNWA meet-up in 2004 I think it was

Just heard about this today after talking to Mike. Absolutely devestated. Vic was an amazing fella and one of the most intelligent people I've ever met. I hadn't had a chance to see him recently and this is terrible terrible news Gutted.

If you need more LFT kits then pop into your local Chemist and they are more than happy to hand them out. You can register all tests using the code printed on them - they can be entered onto your account on the NHS Site.

I'm going with the theory that the LHC pushed us into an alternate reality. Nothing else makes any sense whatsoever.

Get well soon mate. Hopefully be buying you a pint at the KC before too long

Lol fair play. Tara for a bit

With what? Automobile that is being obsessed over wasn't part of the US->UK and UK->US creeping language anyway.

(or I didn't notice it) Hmmm

In the context of the original post, my point was I'd heard it in some 80s and 90s films and that I haven't noticed it being used recently. But Automobile is just one of the words noticed. It's interesting that was the one picked up, however, as that was away from the original post that hasn't transferred. I doubt Automobile will ever become generally used in the UK - but I suspect that some other American words would be

Interesting one. How American was Ford really given he was first generation. His father, William Ford (1826–1905), was born in County Cork, Ireland, to a family that was originally from Somerset, England. (WIKIPEDIA) I can't find any cases where he used 'Automobile' (Though perhaps he did and I can't find it) After what generation did 'The American Language' kick in? You'd imagine that back then people like Ford would have been taught by family or people brought in to teach? Where did they come from? As mentioned earlier, Automobile came from the French description, but Ford was of Irish/English descent.

Yes. Generally used in British English, but I've heard that used a couple of times in American TV and Films.

I think the point is that language is and always has been mutable. The increasing globalisation (or globalization if you prefer) of media will eventually ensure that all languages will interact and evolve.

I think you need to provide more evidence. When you say there has been no change, you think, then, that car has always been used from the off in the US and that automobile has never been in general usage? In programmes from the 50s and 60s and maybe 70s I'm pretty sure I've heard "Automobile" a fair bit. A few times in the 80s and 90s and nowdays it's a pretty rare thing to hear. That says to me that there does seem to have been a slight shift in language. Where did 'car' come from? Was it re-invented by the Americans or did it appear due to British films and Brits moving to and living in America?

Indeed. But he also said Automobile. Your original suggestion is that there were no 80s or 90s films that did. I've heard 'Car' used as well plenty of times in American films. I've never heard a British person in a film say 'Automobile' unless they are quoting a name.. More for you as well Cars (2006) "Fillmore: You know, some automotive yoga could really lower your RPMs, man." Sixteen Candles (1984) "Dong. Where is my automobile?" Shawshank Redemption (1994) "I can't believe how fast things move on the outside. I saw an automobile once when I was a kid, but now they're everywhere." Pulp Fiction (1994) "What's more chickens*** than f***ing with a man's automobile? I mean, don't f*** with another man's vehicle." The Big Lewinsky "We've recovered your vehicle. It can be claimed at the North Hollywood Auto Circus there on Victory." My Cousin Vinny (1992) "Out of work hairdresser. Now, in what way does that qualify you as an expert in automobiles." "You're Honor, Miss Vito's expertise is in general automotive knowledge" "Alright, alright. Now, Miss Vito, being an expert on general automotive knowledge" Also - if you read film scripts, many references to cars are actually referred to as Automobiles. Far, far too many to list. But google is your friend.

Trains, Plane and Automobiles (1987) Uses it in the script as well "Then give me a f***ing automobile." Used Cars (1980) "Shall we examine the capacious interior of this luxury automobile?" "Now, son, you're looking at one of the finest automobiles on this lot." "Behind me is the automobile business at its absolute worst." "This is roy l. Fuchs, pre-owned automobiles." Vacation (1983) "This is the new Wagonqueen Family Truckster. This is a fine automobile" "this is the automobile you should be using." "This is your automobile" "And he, he shouldn't even have a license to drive an automobile. He should be behind bars!" Ferris Buellers Day Off (1986) "A man with such priorities doesn't deserve this fine automobile" For instance