So Who's our leading OG scorer

[HeWonItFromBrock]

One yesterday and against Tottenham this season, 2 against United in 1997, 1 in the FA Cup Final spring straight to mind. Is there anyone else who is even close?

[Rory Fitzgerald]

Thats his 7th I believe and he beat I think it was Ron Yeats when he scored against Spurs to make it 6.

[Joxer]

Wasnt there a joke goin round a few years about who was top scorer for opposing teams at Anfield?

Answer was supposedly Emlyn Hughes with 13 o.g.'s#

 

EDIT

Just checked it out on lfchistory.net, and that joke was a load of old balls, as he is only credited as scoring 2 o.g.'s

Edited December 14, 2008 by Joxer

[Koogan]

I think the criteria might have changed over the years as to what is an oggie and what is not. So I don't thin there's much point in comparing players of different eras.

[Frosty Jack]

One yesterday and against Tottenham this season, 2 against United in 1997

 

1999

[Herbie von Smalls]

when i think of Liverpool FC and own goals, it'll be jon arne riise that'll stay with me for years to come.

 

when i think of Jamie Carragher it'll be him getting cramp, telling dudek to do the spaghetti legs and the picture of that embrace in istanbul - not seven (and counting) own goals.

[allawee]

"when i think of Jamie Carragher it'll be him getting cramp, telling dudek to do the spaghetti legs and the picture of that embrace in istanbul - not seven (and counting) own goals."

 

Well said!

Edited December 14, 2008 by allawee

[Kop_90]

So what your saying is that if we loose the League by a couple of points this year it will mean less.

Rose tinted scouse glasses me thinks, some people just cant seem to criticise certain players.

An OG is bad under any circumstances.

Don't shift the emphasis away from Carra who has an awful record for OG's

[Kvarme Ate My Food]

Rose tinted scouse glasses

 

koff, bellend

[Herbie von Smalls]

So what your saying is that if we loose the League by a couple of points this year it will mean less.

Rose tinted scouse glasses me thinks, some people just cant seem to criticise certain players.

An OG is bad under any circumstances.

Don't shift the emphasis away from Carra who has an awful record for OG's

drama queen.

 

 

if we lose the league by a couple of points it most certainly won't be down to Jamie Carragher. i don't care whether he takes the tally to 70 own goals in his LFC career, he'll still be one of the best defenders ever to have worn the shirt.

[chrisbonnie]

i know when i was a kid i cristened Gary ablett, "Own goal Ablett", (catchy, i know)

 

so he`s got to be in with a shout

[Cam]

There's a point there. The own goal was down to him having no left foot (and, admittedly, the incident a few moments earlier). Riise headed the Chelsea goal 'cos he has no right foot.

 

Carragher's far more of a hero than Riise ever was and is far from finished. Going overboard isn't necessary but he deserves some criticism for yesterday.

[smithdown]

i don't care whether he takes the tally to 70 own goals in his LFC career, he'll still be one of the best defenders ever to have worn the shirt.

 

Drama queen.

 

You'd go feckin mad if he scored 70 own goals. That'd be feckin crazy. He'd well get dropped before then. He'd be feckin rubbish if he did that. A disgrace to himself and his people.

[Paisley]

Just out of interest, has he scored more goals for liverpool than against?

 

Just as well he's stopped 17,867 goals with his heroic defending.

[Herbie von Smalls]

Drama queen.

 

You'd go feckin mad if he scored 70 own goals. That'd be feckin crazy. He'd well get dropped before then. He'd be feckin rubbish if he did that. A disgrace to himself and his people.

you don't say

[Will]

Just out of interest, has he scored more goals for liverpool than against?

I believe he is currently at -3

[Koogan]

Djimi's oggie was a bit special though.

[Jarg Armani]

you don't say

 

jesus.

[Leo No.8]

Great 'defensive' defenders often score a lot of own goals because they are always in the right place to try and clear the ball and it ends up going in off them one way or another. They are always where it counts.

 

I think, although at the time you think 'why the f*ck did you do that' the number of own goals Carra scores is generally down to the fact that he is always where the threat of a goal against us is, throwing himself in where it hurts.

 

Carra has been great this season, back to his best. The Spurs one was just back luck because he got a little shove at just the wrong time and it was almost inadvertant the way the ball went in off him, that was purely down to chance.

 

But I wanted to say all the above before addressing his own goal on Saturday, because it was absolutely dreadful. I know he'll be kicking himself for the way he turned our possession into a Hull goal almost single handedly.

 

It was truly a couple of minutes of madness, the like of which you'll never see again from him. First the poor touch, then losing his rag with Wiley and getting caught by the quick free kick, then using his right instead of his left a la Riise.

 

It was absolutely awful from start to finish; the one own goal you couldn't do anything but hold against Carra. The first bit down to poor technique, then poor judgement and finally poor technique and judgement rolled into one to stick it in the net.

 

But he's human, we all make mistakes. I'm sure he'll be back to his immaculate best against Arsenal.

Edited December 15, 2008 by Leo No.8

[Hassony]

Great 'defensive' defenders often score a lot of own goals because they are always in the right place to try and clear the ball and it ends up going in off them one way or another. They are always where it counts.

 

Did you have the same thought when Riise scored his famous OG (or the one against luton!), after all, he was in the right place to try and clear the ball!

 

It was a bad mistake from Carra, and its something that he needs to stop doing

[Gray - YPC]

So what your saying is that if we loose the League by a couple of points this year it will mean less.

Rose tinted scouse glasses me thinks, some people just cant seem to criticise certain players.

An OG is bad under any circumstances.

Don't shift the emphasis away from Carra who has an awful record for OG's

A post so flawed it's not even worth dissecting.

 

So you believe any player who scores an OG is to blame? So there's never been OG's that just happen and you can't attach any blame to anyone?

 

Clown!!

[Chili Palmer]

Great 'defensive' defenders often score a lot of own goals because they are always in the right place to try and clear the ball and it ends up going in off them one way or another. They are always where it counts.

 

I think, although at the time you think 'why the f*ck did you do that' the number of own goals Carra scores is generally down to the fact that he is always where the threat of a goal against us is, throwing himself in where it hurts.

 

Carra has been great this season, back to his best. The Spurs one was just back luck because he got a little shove at just the wrong time and it was almost inadvertant the way the ball went in off him, that was purely down to chance.

 

But I wanted to say all the above before addressing his own goal on Saturday, because it was absolutely dreadful. I know he'll be kicking himself for the way he turned our possession into a Hull goal almost single handedly.

 

It was truly a couple of minutes of madness, the like of which you'll never see again from him. First the poor touch, then losing his rag with Wiley and getting caught by the quick free kick, then using his right instead of his left a la Riise.

 

It was absolutely awful from start to finish; the one own goal you couldn't do anything but hold against Carra. The first bit down to poor technique, then poor judgement and finally poor technique and judgement rolled into one to stick it in the net.

 

But he's human, we all make mistakes. I'm sure he'll be back to his immaculate best against Arsenal.

 

well put. He has been a legend for us, shocking mistake on saturday, then hopefully back to his best.

 

And just an aside, I have no problem whatsoever with players making honest mistakes when they put as much effort as Carra, Stevie, Kuyt etc in.

[Cobs]

Great 'defensive' defenders often score a lot of own goals because they are always in the right place to try and clear the ball and it ends up going in off them one way or another.

 

like to see some stats on that

[Boca]

The comparison with Riise is laughable. Riise was absolute gash for his last couple of seasons here and the OG against Chelsea just topped off his general ineptness with an exclaimation point.

 

Carragher, on the other hand has been immense for most of his career and mistakes like the one Saturday are few and far between.

[Hassony]

like to see some stats on that

 

from the times

 

"Moving on to leading own-goal scorers, Alister Campbell reckons Terry Butcher scored six own goals while at Rangers, equalling Carragher's total for Liverpool. Ben Wright informs us that Richard Dunne and Frank Sinclair have each scored six own goals in the Premier League, but these have been spread between spells at several clubs"

 

 

Neither Sinclair or Dunner are great defenders