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Sir Tokyo Sexwale

Sir Tokyo Sexwale

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no, not his challenges, but the Newcastle fans - if only he was a striker...

 

Joey Barton has described Newcastle United fans as "vicious" and admitted to being "shocked" by the scale of abuse meted out to Sam Allardyce and his players during last Saturday's 3-0 home defeat by Liverpool.

 

"I have not yet seen the famous crowd I was expecting to hear get behind us," said the England international, who joined Newcastle from Manchester City last summer. "Instead it has been vicious; I don't think I have heard a crowd that vicious. Last Saturday I was sitting on the bench and after 20 minutes I had picked up on it. At half-time I was walking down the tunnel with Peter Crouch and he turned and said, 'I've never heard a crowd so vicious.' To be honest, it shocked me."

 

Barton has himself been booed by Newcastle fans since his move to the club and believes players will start to turn down transfers to St James' Park if the supporters do not adjust their approach.

 

"The fans want success and they want it straightaway," he said, "but unless they change that mentality and start supporting the side through poor results, then things won't change. It's the easiest thing in the world to shout a negative comment but I would like them to just try to be positive. Unless there's a massive change it's going to be the same for this manager, the next manager and whoever comes in after that. And if it continues, when the manager goes for players, they will go somewhere else rather than jump in the frying pan."

 

Barton has been urged to tell the truth at all times in his regular sessions with counsellors helping him with anger management. As with Roy Keane, such candour does not always make him popular but, like the Sunderland manager, Barton often makes sense. Where Chris Mort, Newcastle's chairman, has taken the view that "the paying customer is king" and insisted that supporters are within their rights to vent their spleen at poor performances, Barton disagrees.

 

"Without people behind you, you can't achieve anything," he said. "People have talked about a fear factor up here and you sense it the minute someone gives the ball away and it's greeted by jeers. You look at the calibre of the players who've been at Newcastle over the last 10 years and there are a lot of top, top ones - Patrick Kluivert, Jermaine Jenas and Scott Parker - who didn't do so well here.

 

"This crowd has been vicious enough to eat players up. It's easy for someone to buckle in that kind of atmosphere. Our next home game is against Arsenal and, if we go out there again and are greeted by that sort of atmosphere, we will lose."

 

Barton is not the type to give poor displays the airbrush treatment. Newcastle have lost their past two home games, 3-0 to Liverpool and 4-1 to Portsmouth, and have taken only one point from four matches. "I can understand the frustration," he said, "and I'm not saying [the abuse] is not deserved but, if fans stay behind the team, then all of a sudden you will get players playing their best."

 

He believes the fans could do worse than emulate the support at Anfield. "If we can get the crowd behind us, it lifts the place and almost becomes a 12th man. I have watched Liverpool and the Kop becomes a 12th man. That is what we need."

 

Barton's frustration is intensified because he has warmed to individual Newcastle supporters he has met in the city. "They've spoken a lot of sense because they know the game and really support the club. I just think their passion can be misled at times," he said. "We just want that little bit of patience. I am probably as passionate as any of those fans out there about this club."

 

He believes Allardyce, who has not won over the club's fans since his arrival from Bolton in May, should be given the benefit of the doubt. "Sam's a good manager," said Barton. "He's getting the brunt of the criticism but doesn't deserve it. Not many managers can turn a club round in five minutes."

 

Newcastle fans are not fans of the ultra-pragmatic football employed by Allardyce but Barton feels they should stop wallowing in nostalgia and get behind the team.

 

"In an ideal world we would be playing the same style as in the [Kevin] Keegan era but that era is gone," he said. "This is a club and a side in transition. We have a lot of new faces, some injuries and we haven't gelled." As a result Newcastle's situation remains perilously fragile. "This isn't going to blow over," Barton said. "This is trench warfare, a time for coming together and seeing who the men are among us. If we don't, this club will be in big trouble."

Guest Linton

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At least he says something sensible for once in his life. He is right about their fans. Although he is a complete bellend himself.

Guz

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Hopefully Blackburn will put another nail in Allardyce's coffin today and Arsenal next up next week. Not going to be a very happy Christmas for him.

 

Who gives a s*** what happens to that fat walrus. Hopefully they stick 6 past Arsenal (and conceed less than 6)

_00_deathscar

_00_deathscar

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Who gives a s*** what happens to that fat walrus. Hopefully they stick 6 past Arsenal (and conceed less than 6)

 

:lol:

 

Always needs saying when Newcastle are involved - even Fat Sam can't seem to instill any defensive understanding into them.

 

Oh, and it's concede. ;)

kenny7

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From years of going to the match home and away and their general attitude full stop.

 

I'll say it again then bit of a f***ing sweeping statement there Jon

stressederic

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Joey Barton's idiocy knows no bounds. A complete and utter f*cking moron.

 

The clamour we used to have from people on here to sign him because "he's a good scouser" used to turn my stomach.

New York Red

New York Red

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Tell me where he's wrong....

 

He's not. But you also don't do that to your own fans.

 

Oh, and he stubbed a cigar out in a young players eye. And he assaulted another team mate. And he alienated his England teammates.

 

He's a total t*sser.

Knox_Harrington

Knox_Harrington

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He's not. But you also don't do that to your own fans.

 

Oh, and he stubbed a cigar out in a young players eye. And he assaulted another team mate. And he alienated his England teammates.

I'm backing him on two from four. His own fans need telling from someone somehow because they haven't got it into their thick skulls yet. "I played s***. Here's my book." remains the finest and most succinct summation of the problems of top level English footballers.

 

I'd have had him before we signed Momo (or perhaps even Mascherano) because he's a battling centre mid who can play a bit. He's clearly a good player. He's also clearly a f***ing case.

Tosh

Tosh

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Tell me where he's wrong....

"The fans want success and they want it straightaway,"

 

Factually, that is wrong. They've been waiting 50 odd years.... :cool:

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