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474 according to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_by_country But not sure about those UK stats - those US stats for example are wildly off due to underreporting and issues with tests etc at the time...CDC's own website has the count much higher:

This is a long but worthy read. https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca?fbclid=IwAR1zr8SaSRB9uUWWRFm7o1QFJG0WvoAAuRrXuAcj9dliLZNAQtkLQaC6vfg

No, but you see people still going out and about...

The idea that only old people are really affected (because they make up the majority of the deaths) is so, so flawed. The problem is that when younger people go on about their daily lives, they could be carrying it without showing symptoms - we know that can be as long as 14 days, some reports suggest 24 days. The latest I saw says it can last upto 37 days inside the body. So your father/grandpa could stay at home and never leave, but when you’re visiting or coming back home... ALL social interaction needs to be practically shut down for a while. I’m still absolutely shocked that I’m reading about concerts etc going ahead.

The virus by itself isn't lethal, per se. There are a few factors: - Many people might have the virus (mild symptoms) and not bother going to a hospital/testing facility to get tested. Many more probably exhibit more serious symptoms, those may/may not get tested. Only the severe really get tested (unless there are enough kits to go around). - Where the death rate starts rising is when it spirals out of control. Then medical supplies etc are all suddenly in a shortage and it really goes nuts (see Italy, Wuhai/Hubei etc). If controlled at an initial stage, death rate is low (even rest of China outside of Hubei).

Hong Konger here. I am absolutely staggered by the response in Europe and US (latter not so surprise I guess) thus far. Several places in Asia (Hong Kong, Macau, Singapore, Taiwan etc) had literally given a blueprint to the rest of the world on how to handle this effectively. I'm absolutely shocked that the game the other night at Anfield - 50,000-odd people from the area, around the UK and internationally, with another 3,000 or so from Madrid - was allowed to happen. And even WHEN measures are taken (closed door games), you still have mass gatherings (PSG game the other night). Schools in many places that aren't in complete lockdown are still open etc.

Whoever started threads like this and anything about invincibles etc should be permabanned.

Whoever started threads like this and anything about invincibles etc should be permabanned.

Bookmark the page: http://vipbox.tv/ I use it for literally every sport, even really obscure games.

Anyone else watch Wolves play from time to time and think that Raul Jimenez is basically a less scruffy, less bitey, less mad, less talented Luis Suarez?

Anyone see that Maradona documentary? Was fascinating - wish they did a few more. Same guys did Senna, no?

Can we blame the new forum? This is awful.

Was just going to say - most annoying performance of the season from the opposition. God they're annoying to play.

Very tight race there. Interesting that 3 teams are currently on course for 85 points or thereabouts (maybe higher).

Basically, this. We were a pretty darn good side then - especially in Europe and over two legs - but we're the best side in Europe right now.