John Terry and The FA

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http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/sam-wallace-why-fa-must-stop-terry-going-to-euros-6298132.html

 

If the Football Association hierarchy is honest with itself the best news it could hope for this morning is that John Terry releases a statement saying that, given the severity of the allegations against him, and the profile of this summer's Euro 2012 tournament, he is withdrawing from international football until the case is resolved in July.

 

The FA also knows there is precious little chance of Terry doing so. So given his trial will not take place until after Euro 2012, the association has to take the lead and tell the England captain he must sit this one out until his case, over alleged racially abusive comments to Anton Ferdinand, is resolved.

 

 

 

Yes, it is hard on a footballer who has 72 caps for his country and has a right to be considered innocent until proven otherwise. Yes, precedent will be thrown in the FA's face – not least, its current fragile position that it cannot deviate from its stance that the law must take its course first. Yes, the fact that it has switched its position from the friendly against Sweden in November, in which Terry played, will be cited.

 

By excluding Terry until the resolution of his case, the FA will ensure that, in some quarters, it will unleash upon itself an unholy storm of criticism. But it is the right choice for the England team and it is the right choice, given the severity of the allegation.

 

There is no presumption of guilt or innocence either way in such a decision, simply the acknowledgement that this summer England have to try to win a tournament and to give themselves the best chance of doing so they have to divest themselves of the baggage of the serious allegations against Terry.

 

Unlike the Crown Prosecution Service, the FA does not have to build a legal case against Terry, it can just make a decision based on what it feels is best for the team. You want to talk about precedent? Then look no further than the first time that Fabio Capello sacked Terry as captain of England in February 2010.

 

Then, the England manager did not sit down Terry and his former friend Wayne Bridge and weigh up the rights and wrongs of Terry's alleged affair with Bridge's ex-partner Vanessa Perroncel. He made a straightforward decision that the circus surrounding Terry, largely in the media it should be said, had grown to a fever pitch and it had to be defused.

 

This time it is not simply the media whose interest is acute. Compared to Bridgegate, the influence of Terry's fellow professionals this time has been felt much more profoundly. In Bridge's case, it was just the player himself who turned down a handshake. This time it was to be the whole Queen's Park Rangers team until the pre-match handshake was cancelled. Reading's Jason Roberts has described the potential effect of Terry on England's dressing room as "toxic" and he is right.

 

But it goes beyond the sporting imperative and the effect on England at Euro 2012, to the nature of the alleged offence, too. Any public figure facing similar investigations, not to mention a school teacher or a policeman, would have to withdraw from service until it was resolved. Why should professional football, not least a team that is in essence representative of England, be any different?

 

It is not possible to foresee what the outcome of the case will be but as it stands now Terry's position as England captain is unsustainable. This is not about the FA trying to make a decision that will either be vindicated or proved wrong in court in July. It is about making a decision that is right on the circumstances that the FA faces now and then at Euro 2012.

 

Should Terry be excluded from international duty and then acquitted he will rightly be given the platform to air his grievances. It will no doubt be uncomfortable for the FA but so be it. No-one said that leadership was easy.

 

This is a fraught, complex situation. There is no obvious option to take that will guarantee a smooth ride for the FA and Capello from start to finish. But that does not mean there is not a right option. If the FA excludes Terry from Euro 2012 and he is subsequently acquitted, then it will inevitably face criticism from some quarters that it denied a footballer one of the greatest moments of his career. But the FA does not have the luxury of hindsight. It has to make a decision on what it faces now.

 

This is the kind of tough decision that a governing body has to take. This is a pivotal moment for English football. The allegations are simply too serious to ignore and until now the FA will have prayed for the case to be resolved in law before the summer's tournament.

 

Unfortunately for the FA, that escape has passed it by. There is no exact precedent for the Terry case. That the FA allowed him to play in the friendly against Sweden only makes it more difficult. There is no easy path. The governing body cannot simply leave this one to its manager to decide. There is far too much at stake.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Swagger]

Few days after the final of Euro 2012.

 

Should have scheduled it after the quarter finals, as there is fat chance of England still being involved past this stage of the competition.

[Random Bird]

I really can't understand the FA even with the 'innocent until proven guilty' appraoch. Most organisations would suspend an employee facing severe criminal charges whilst an investigation is being undertaken/until court appearance - and those that wouldn't would certainly ensure that the accused person was not represnting them at high profile events.

[Tosh]

According to Auntie, JT will not stand down as England captain. Nice to see him making the lives of everyone around him that little bit easier, the massiv massive c***

 

John Terry will not resign as England captain despite facing trial over racial abuse allegations, according to a source close to the player.

 

The Chelsea defender is due to face charges on 9 July after an incident involving QPR's Anton Ferdinand in the teams' Premier League match in October.

 

"He won't stand down. He is sure of his innocence and thus feels it would be wrong to do so," said the source.

 

Reading's Jason Roberts has said that Terry should not play at Euro 2012.

 

Roberts, who is also a pundit for BBC Radio 5 live, has warned that Terry's presence at the tournament would have a "toxic" effect on the England dressing room.

 

The tournament runs between 8 June and 1 July, before the start of Terry's trial.

[Coyler]

Seriously, who in God's name is Jason Roberts?

[Billy Dane]

Well he's a football player who's coming to the end of his journeyman career in the game but he's an expert on all things involving racism because he's black so his opinion is more relevant than anyone else, apart from the media who are literally the custodians of the moral compass of this great country.

[D.Boon]

Seriously, who in God's name is Jason Roberts?

 

Moral Barometer Man

[jimbolala]

Why should he stand down if he thinks he is innocent. As much as a ***** he is, it wasnt so long ago we backed suarez on his stance. Lets not look like hypocritical fools

[smithdown]

I think the point is he should show a bit more effort to clear his name. It appears that the london-based three hour a day and longer hours at weekends millionaire footballer hasn't the time just now, it can wait until after he's stopped playing his football.

[oran]

can somepne please explain to me how he can be innocent? the video evidence looks pretty clear to me..

[psl]

He is saying that he said it only to confirm he didn't say it.

 

He'll probably win too.

[oran]

I have no doubt he will win.But i thought its enough to say those words,intent and context doesnt matter,to be called a racist..

[Falconhoof]

I think he'll be convicted. Ferdinand says the conversation never took place, he won't corroborate Terry's bizarre claim that he was replying to Ferdinand by saying 'I never called you a....'

Unles there is other evidence we aren't privy to ?

[psl]

Court would need to find he intended the comment to be threatening, abusive or insulting.

[smithdown]

Can't prove he didn't think he heard what he went on to say even though the fella he said it to didn't hear or say anything either.

 

Not um guilty.

 

Come on England!

[psl]

Actually, think it might be enough if court finds that he was aware that it may be threatening, abusive, insulting or disorderly.

 

There are other tests relating to the racial element too.

[Sion]

He shouldn't be captain because he isn't in the top 4 English CBs. Regardless of his off-field nonsense.

[Cobs]

Why should he stand down if he thinks he is innocent. As much as a ***** he is, it wasnt so long ago we backed suarez on his stance. Lets not look like hypocritical fools

 

 

[Cobs]

He is saying that he said it only to confirm he didn't say it.

 

He'll probably win too.

 

If i had to put £5 on it....

 

I have no doubt he will win.But i thought its enough to say those words,intent and context doesnt matter,to be called a racist..

 

 

His defence is the repetition of a phrase he denies saying

 

otherwise everyone who's repeated what Terry said becomes a racist

 

I think he'll be convicted. Ferdinand says the conversation never took place, he won't corroborate Terry's bizarre claim that he was replying to Ferdinand by saying 'I never called you a....'

Unles there is other evidence we aren't privy to ?

 

Unless someone else told him ' he thinks you said.... ' or he was confused to the point where he thinks Ferdinand thinks that he said....

[psl]

Unless someone else told him ' he thinks you said.... ' or he was confused to the point where he thinks Ferdinand thinks that he said....

 

Exactly. Terry will probably say that someone told him that Ferdinand thought he'd said that and he shouted that he didn't. Maybe one of the other Chelsea players will back this up.

 

Still don't get how we're filling 5 days of court time.

[Cobs]

Indeed

 

But then I didn't understand how the Suarez case took 3 days of testimony either

[Crazy Horse]

Losing the armband but available for selection... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16866149

[Ramón Benítez Hernández]

Who'll be captain? Anton's brother?

[John am Rhein]

it'll be great to see Terry cashiered

[Cobs]

Who'll be captain? Anton's brother?

StevieG if he's available