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f*** off UEFA, f*** off Paris Police: Aftermath of the Paris final

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Maharajkumar of Vizianagram

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Though it was time we had a thread for this.  I'm sure we all wish the actual match thread would go away, and with everything that's happened since it deserves a standalone thread. 

And after this latest revelation, I really hope they're not allowed to get away with it

Cadot’s 30-page report, delivered on Friday to the office of the French prime minister, Élisabeth Borne, refers to Hillsborough in a section on police intelligence before the final on 28 May between Liverpool and Real Madrid. The section recognises first that Liverpool supporters have not been known for violence at matches. However, it then continues: “Reference to the Hillsborough tragedy in 1989 – 97 deaths – for which the responsibility of the [police] was pointed out, led however to the drawing up of a firm policing arrangement, to maintain order in riot gear, in order to be able to respond to a risk of collective phenomena of hooliganism and havoc, as had happened in Marseilles on 13 June 2016 during the England-Russia game.”

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23 minutes ago, Aritro said:

Though it was time we had a thread for this.  I'm sure we all wish the actual match thread would go away, and with everything that's happened since it deserves a standalone thread. 

And after this latest revelation, I really hope they're not allowed to get away with it

Cadot’s 30-page report, delivered on Friday to the office of the French prime minister, Élisabeth Borne, refers to Hillsborough in a section on police intelligence before the final on 28 May between Liverpool and Real Madrid. The section recognises first that Liverpool supporters have not been known for violence at matches. However, it then continues: “Reference to the Hillsborough tragedy in 1989 – 97 deaths – for which the responsibility of the [police] was pointed out, led however to the drawing up of a firm policing arrangement, to maintain order in riot gear, in order to be able to respond to a risk of collective phenomena of hooliganism and havoc, as had happened in Marseilles on 13 June 2016 during the England-Russia game.”

This is absolutely disgusting on every single level.

 

Hassony

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The mad thing is that we played many times in France and Paris over the past 30 years, with no issues 

Yet suddenly they're pushing the narrative that we're high risk 

cymrococh

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2 minutes ago, Hassony said:

The mad thing is that we played many times in France and Paris over the past 30 years, with no issues 

Yet suddenly they're pushing the narrative that we're high risk 

They're apparently not even taking Athens as a precedent, or Madrid or Kiev.

Stupid corrupt c*nts.

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Leo No.8

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Somebody high up in the Paris police force or government has driven this approach, and they have to be identified and made to take responsibility.

There was no logical or data driven basis for doing it so it has to have cone down through the system from one misinformed individual with significant sway.

You couldn’t have planned this with a range of inputs and voices, this type of unfounded bias comes from one key person and flows down through the ranks.

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Escargot

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1 hour ago, PaulMcC186 said:

French police, like everywhere else, are c****. The way they treat football fans is a disgrace. It comes from Macron.

This predates Macron. There were probably CRS (special anti-riot squads) and gendarmes (under control of the army, not national police force) at the game so you have all the hard nuts.

1 hour ago, Hassony said:

The mad thing is that we played many times in France and Paris over the past 30 years, with no issues 

Yet suddenly they're pushing the narrative that we're high risk 

The 1997 cup winners cup game was 'high risk' according to UEFA. Met a lad in an LFC top who had been attacked by the police for no reason and was wandering around dazed before kick-off.

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D.Boon

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I've tried to play devils advocate to the wording regarding Hillsborough. Maybe the inference was the policing strategy was in part designed to avoid bottlenecks and crushes but I can't make that fly as they did exactly that.

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RedSalmon

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Putting 2 and 2 together to come up with 6. Interesting they mention the England Russia game, when this final was supposed to have been played in St Petersburg and France currently spending more on Russian energy than they did before February.

Hassony

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1 hour ago, D.Boon said:

I've tried to play devils advocate to the wording regarding Hillsborough. Maybe the inference was the policing strategy was in part designed to avoid bottlenecks and crushes but I can't make that fly as they did exactly that.

Yeah, seems the lesson they learned from there is to police it and then lie about it in exactly the same way 

muleskinner

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9 hours ago, PaulMcC186 said:

French police, like everywhere else, are c****. The way they treat football fans is a disgrace. It comes from Macron.

It's been this way for years and not just about football, Macron is just the current president. 

Escargot

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The senators investigating are still pushing for more answers and want to pin this on someone. Latest comments :

« Les dysfonctionnements sont nombreux, les faits du 28 mai sont d’une rare gravité dont les conséquences auraient pu être dramatiques », a cinglé Laurent Lafon en préambule, décrivant, de la part des organisateurs, « une impréparation en amont, un manque de réactivité pendant l’événement » et « une gestion critiquable après ».

Grosso modo: numerous errors, what happened was serious and could have been dramatic, lack of advance planning, lack of reactivity, poor handling afterwards.

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On 17/06/2022 at 20:44, Jarg Armani said:

I still don’t want us to bother with this sh*t next season. F*ck these people and their competition.

I agree. I'll hold my nose though and boo my head off at their anthem, along with everybody else. Banners and booing, it's where it's at, f*ck off UEFA.

PaulMcC186

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The club need to start suing. The club use the fans for commercial needs. This is damaging the club's reputation which could have an impact on commercial deals. 

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Barnesy_10

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yeah we need to go in on these c****... Hopefully we will and won't just sit back and let them tar us with s***e that was their own incompetence hidden behind lies. 

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Barnesy_10

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1 hour ago, PaulMcC186 said:

 

 

 

Gives me some hope from reading the translated comments that there is a lot of support from natives for us which can only be a good thing 

PaulMcC186

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8 minutes ago, Barnesy_10 said:

Gives me some hope from reading the translated comments that there is a lot of support from natives for us which can only be a good thing 

I read 76% of French people polled think it wasn't the fans fault.

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