Brighton & Hove Albion v Liverpool FC - Sat 28 Nov - 1230pm

[stressederic]

I wasn't sure why Jota tried to pass his early opportunity to Salah when we was also basically one-on-one with the keeper himself. Take the shot.

[Swipe]

Yeah and he passed it too early as well. 
 

We looked really bright then they missed a sitter and we never looked assured again for the rest of the half. 

[Ombudsam]

17 minutes ago, Swipe said:

Yeah and he passed it too early as well. 
 

We looked really bright then they missed a sitter and we never looked assured again for the rest of the half. 

That was exactly the pattern. @Jarg Armani and @PaulMcC186 are right too in that we’re rarely as clinical as we might be.

[psl]

4 minutes ago, sammy & a said:

That was exactly the pattern. @Jarg Armani and @PaulMcC186 are right too in that we’re rarely as clinical as we might be.

I reckon every fan thinks that of their team though.

[kop205]

8 hours ago, Hassony said:

No conspiracy against us, but some of our players aren't as protected as others in the league because of an unfair reputation that they're divers

It is ok mate, you can just say Salah

1 hour ago, Jarg Armani said:

We should always be 2-0 up in the first 10, but hardly ever are. One of our main issues (if you take all the madness of this season away).

Right, that's decided then, just do this every week, problem solved. Do we have to come up with all the good ideas Jarg?

Edited November 29, 2020 by kop205

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

23 minutes ago, sammy & a said:

That was exactly the pattern. @Jarg Armani and @PaulMcC186 are right too in that we’re rarely as clinical as we might be.

we have to give the rest a chance

[Hassony]

1 hour ago, Jarg Armani said:

We should always be 2-0 up in the first 10, but hardly ever are. One of our main issues (if you take all the madness of this season away).

That's the most dangerous score in football though, as the bottling scummers showed today

[Jarg Armani]

1 minute ago, kop205 said:

It is ok mate, you can just say Salah

Right, they decided then, just do this every week, problem solved. Do we have to come up with all the good ideas Jarg?

Klopp is usually pretty good at these ideas, just get the best keeper and defender in the world and that’s that boxed, that sort of thing. He maybe hasn’t realised this is another quick win. Low hanging fruit.

23 minutes ago, Sir Tokyo Sexwale said:

we have to give the rest a chance

Strongly disagree 

[Ombudsam]

39 minutes ago, psl said:

I reckon every fan thinks that of their team though.

Yeah. Loads probably do to be fair.

However I do not think we are s*** at corners so that shows I’m no cliche. Have that!

[Hassony]

35 minutes ago, kop205 said:

It is ok mate, you can just say Salah

 

Salah mainly, but I think Mane is another one that doesn't always get awarded fouls against him

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

1 hour ago, Jarg Armani said:

Klopp is usually pretty good at these ideas, just get the best keeper and defender in the world and that’s that boxed, that sort of thing. He maybe hasn’t realised this is another quick win. Low hanging fruit.

Strongly disagree 

hahahhaha

 

yeah, badly worded....

 

We are giving the rest an illusion of a chance.

 

So that's 5 penos against us this season in 10 games? Southampton, City, Chelsea, 2 vs BHA. Can't remember the City one but the first one yesterday is the only one that wasn't utterly contentious.

 

How many have we had? 2 vs Leeds - at least one more.

 

That's a lot of penos - thank f*** we're not playing ManU in the next week or 2

 

 

[Hightown Phil]

2 v Leeds, one West Ham, one City. 

[PaulMcC186]

Which of them shouldn't have been given? I can't remember any except Chelsea and it was a crap challenge by Thiago.

[Swipe]

 

[JRC]

I think Winter called the problem right in his tweet - it's the pedantry I dislike so much. If the reaction of the Refs last season was to take the hump because their authority was being undermined by VAR, then this year it seems to have swung back with a familiar meme - the ref (VAR or on pitch - or IFAB) as wannabe centre of attention, having the tools and the authority to set the game narrative,  like the Traffic Warden waiting by the meter for it to click over and 'start to write' a ticket even as you unlock you car.

The worry is that 'Clear and Obvious Error' and pitch side screen usage ought to mitigate the Ref concerns about their authority - for which I have some sympathy - but the only thing 'Clear and Obvious' about Saturday is that that no longer applies. That incident is only a foul because we have allowed the technology to set the parameters around contact etc. based on slowed down, post-incident close-ups rather than the actual reality of 22 players partaking of a robust, physical contact sport. Some contact when 2 players both challenge legitimately for the ball is inevitable and not necessarily a foul, otherwise the VAR should be looking at every hand placed on a player as he is challenged in the box and calling penalty. Not only is that not given as a foul anywhere else on the pitch, I'm not sure it is looked at to find a reason to suggest a penalty by an over-excited t*** in Stockley Park, relishing the opportunity to wield his new-found power, any time other than the last minute or two - nor whether the Ref would concur anyway that it was a pen if it was half way through the first half.

As for Off Sides - I know they are all checked so not a question of Clear and Obvious Error - but if it can't be determined as offside from an instant review, without putting the decision in thrall to a questionably authoritative and  unnecessarily over-engineered technology and arbitrary protocols, then benefit of doubt should be with the attacker (as opposed to On-Field decision). Mane was barely inches off side on Saturday, and no-one disputes that decision, and the technology makes it clear without lines or frames needing to come into it; taking 3 minutes to find Salah's toe offside - not convincingly - is nonsense, and the ultimate revenge of the pedants against those who actually enjoy the game.

[kop205]

On 29/11/2020 at 16:13, Jarg Armani said:

We should always be 2-0 up in the first 10, but hardly ever are. One of our main issues (if you take all the madness of this season away).

They still aren't listening to us, Jarg.