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Everything about him is sad.

 

He's living back at Cheryl's rented house in Hertfordshire - you'd think that she might be the only person who can save him. But the press just won't leave him be - constantly harassing them at the house. I know they've done more than their fair share of courting publicity over the years, but can't the press just back off now and give them a bit of breathing space?? It is literally a matter of life and death at this point. I guess that's a ridiculously naive question.

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Tabloid journos used to hang around George Best when he was living with Alex - approach him whenever he left the house, casually suggest a chat over a quick drink, ply him with booze and then write stories about his shocking drunken behaviour ... I wouldn't be surprised if they're doing the same with Gascoigne.

 

Agree that Gascoigne may well find his way to the bottom of a bottle without any encouragement or outside interference ... but he'd have a better chance of staying alive a little longer if the press would just leave him alone and at least give him a chance of avoiding a sad and messy end.

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Shane MacGowan couldn't be anywhere near drink or fans when trying to dry out due to everyone wanting to buy him a pint.

He's not sober now is he? I watch a programme on him a good while ago and he'd cut down the booze to pints of wine if I remember.

Also thought it weird that his better half was a fitness instructor. Just seemed odd.

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He's not sober now is he? I watch a programme on him a good while ago and he'd cut down the booze to pints of wine if I remember.

Also thought it weird that his better half was a fitness instructor. Just seemed odd.

 

His gf is Victoria Mary Clarke ("The Girl with green eyes"). She's a journalist but is into healthy eating, grow your own food, fitness etc. They live in Donnybrook in Dublin. She seems to have him somewhat on the straight & narrow but I'd say he's still heavily reliant on drink. The Pogues have announced a series of concerts in the UK in December and he'll be fronting them, as far as I know.

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How is he a "brilliant person"? Wife beating t***.

 

 

FFS Des you always throw that line in as if he deserves everything he gets because of it. People who get rabid pissed do things they wouldn't do when they're sober, people who are rabid pissed for weeks on end undergo personality transplants. How many violent men BECAUSE of what they've done in drink stand back in total dismay at their actions once they sober up?

 

The lad is seriously ill, as a result of his illness he bashed his missus up years ago, she's clearly got over it, why don't you?

 

He's clearly got a good heart, he's a very sick boy.

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FFS Des you always throw that line in as if he deserves everything he gets because of it. People who get rabid pissed do things they wouldn't do when they're sober, people who are rabid pissed for weeks on end undergo personality transplants. How many violent men BECAUSE of what they've done in drink stand back in total dismay at their actions once they sober up?

 

The lad is seriously ill, as a result of his illness he bashed his missus up years ago, she's clearly got over it, why don't you?

 

He's clearly got a good heart, he's a very sick boy.

This.

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FFS Des you always throw that line in as if he deserves everything he gets because of it. People who get rabid pissed do things they wouldn't do when they're sober, people who are rabid pissed for weeks on end undergo personality transplants. How many violent men BECAUSE of what they've done in drink stand back in total dismay at their actions once they sober up?

 

The lad is seriously ill, as a result of his illness he bashed his missus up years ago, she's clearly got over it, why don't you?

 

He's clearly got a good heart, he's a very sick boy.

I think you've done well, here

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I don't think he "deserves everything he gets" because of what he did. I do however think it doesn't exactly mark him out as a "brilliant person". A supremely naturally gifted player, but a complete bell-end in every other aspect.

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I don't think he "deserves everything he gets" because of what he did. I do however think it doesn't exactly mark him out as a "brilliant person". A supremely naturally gifted player, but a complete bell-end in every other aspect.

i tend to find myself coming at it from the other end with gascoigne. if he hadn't been such a genuinely gifted footballer and had just been a run of the mill journeyman pro with massive booze problems and penchant for hitting women, everyone would have thought he was a complete and utter c*nt. this waste-of-natural-talent thing seems to buy leeway and lauding others don't get.

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Where do we draw the line?

 

If we sympathise with/forgive Gazza because he was drunk and suffering from alcoholism when he hit his wife, why don't we sympathise with/forgive drug addicts who commit crimes?

 

arguably we should sympathise more with the drug addict who doesn't have the resources Gazza had.

 

In any case I think we should try to understand what we can and only when we understand it should be we be looking to evaluate it.

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Where do we draw the line?

 

If we sympathise with/forgive Gazza because he was drunk and suffering from alcoholism when he hit his wife, why don't we sympathise with/forgive drug addicts who commit crimes?

 

 

We do/should. Although quite frankly, being a drug addict or a drunk isn't on it's own a free pass, you can be both or either and be a right nasty barstard simply because that's what you are. I don't think for one minute that Paul Gascoigne is a nasty piece of work with a horrible nature, nor do I think him being a famous footballer affects the judgement on him, he's just the example used because he's high profile, principals apply across the board.

 

I don't think he "deserves everything he gets" because of what he did. I do however think it doesn't exactly mark him out as a "brilliant person". A supremely naturally gifted player, but a complete bell-end in every other aspect.

 

 

That many stories about Gascoignes generous nature would seem to say otherwise.

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