Markus Babbel

[Ripley]

After the recent death of Robert Enke, Markus Babbel, now manager of VfB Stuttgart, has spoken for the first time of the tragedy of his own elder brother. Nowhere in any profile or biography of Markus has the story ever appeared and it has taken the suicide of Enke for him to reveal it. The parallels compelled him to speak.

 

In 1989, his 21 year old brother, Gerhard, also a depressive, committed suicide, also by throwing himself in front of a train. Markus was 17 at the time. When his current club were represented at the mourning ceremony for Enke in Hannover by General Manager, Horst Heldt and keeper, Jens Lehmann, Babbel felt it more appropriate to be with his parents on the day.

 

He has been outspoken on whether clubs also have a duty to care better for their players citing the case of international, Sebastian Deisler, who quit the game a few years back after failing to conquer his depression.

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

what does John Gregory think of all of this?

[Stevie H]

i'd forgotten about deisler, sad that too. i bloody love markus babbel, what an amazing footballer.

[fyds]

what does John Gregory think of all of this?

John Gregory and 'think' - you're barking up the wrong unaturally dark-haired tree there, mate.

[kop205]

what does John Gregory think of all of this?

 

I don't remember many Liverpool fans disagreeing with him at the time in truth.

[madaboutlfc]

i'd forgotten about deisler, sad that too. i bloody love markus babbel, what an amazing footballer.

yeah Babbel was the best RB I had seen since Phil Neal.. Awesome.. Sad about Sebastien Diesler as well and he was a huge talent as well

[mick]

What's the John Gregory thing about again? Re Collymore or something?

[muleskinner]

I think Gregory is unfairly maligned over that.

[kop205]

What's the John Gregory thing about again? Re Collymore or something?

 

Yeah, he said soemthing about 'How can someone earning 25k a week be depressed?'

 

Gregory is a prick and clearly money has f*** all to do with it but like I said, I don't remember too many Liverpool fans disagreeing with him at the time.

[The Hitman]

That one is a difficult example because,depressed or not,Collymore is a total c***...

[stressederic]

Yeah, he said soemthing about 'How can someone earning 25k a week be depressed?'

 

Gregory is a prick and clearly money has f*** all to do with it but like I said, I don't remember too many Liverpool fans disagreeing with him at the time.

 

The Tevez thread recently was a similar example. being fed up and talking about retiring from football clearly isn't the same as depression but the idea that you can stop feeling those things becuase you're getting paid £x p/w is just daft. Same when there were stories last season of some of our players getting homesick. Some people seemed to think that a good wage should make a player forget about it. People don't work that way.

[Red Kent]

Babbel and Klinsmann, the perfect dream team for when Rafa goes.

[Andy Mac]

Babbel and Klinsmann, the perfect dream team for when Rafa goes.

 

[Des]

Yeah, he said soemthing about 'How can someone earning 25k a week be depressed?'

 

Gregory is a prick and clearly money has f*** all to do with it but like I said, I don't remember too many Liverpool fans disagreeing with him at the time.

 

Well they are all simply displaying their own ignorance then.

[Gunga Din]

yeah Babbel was the best RB I had seen since Phil Neal.. Awesome.. Sad about Sebastien Diesler as well and he was a huge talent as well

 

 

i think he was better than Neal. he was fantastic

[MarkD]

What's the John Gregory thing about again? Re Collymore or something?

 

Gregory is a prick but on this occasion I think (surprisingly) he was mis-quoted.

 

I recall his comments were around how he didn't understand depression and what triggered it. The comment re; money and Collymore were taken out of context. I believe his intention was more an admission of his own ignorance of it and it's causes.

[Red Kent]

 

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[Red Kent]

i think he was better than Neal. he was fantastic

 

I dont think you can compare the two, they were both brilliant in their own way.

[Cam]

He was brilliant and staying on whilst injured and scoring the last-gasp winner versus Spurs was phenomenal.

 

But better than Rob Jones? I don't think so.

[kop205]

Well they are all simply displaying their own ignorance then.

 

Kind of the point I was gently trying to make - i.e. it is hardly just John Gregory who can be singled out for such an attitude - but don't let that stop you getting on your usual moral high-horse.

 

Heaven forbid you ever find yourself scrabbling around down here with the rest of us mere mortals one day.

Edited November 24, 2009 by kop205

[mick]

Yeah, he said soemthing about 'How can someone earning 25k a week be depressed?'

 

Gregory is a prick and clearly money has f*** all to do with it but like I said, I don't remember too many Liverpool fans disagreeing with him at the time.

 

Ok cheers - yeah that rings a bell now.

[Des]

Kind of the point I was gently trying to make - i.e. it is hardly just John Gregory who can be singled out for such an attitude - but don't let that stop you getting on your usual moral high-horse.

 

Heaven forbid you ever find yourself scrabbling around down here with the rest of us mere mortals one day.

 

I wasn't having a go at you, you paranoid eejit. Go and have a cup of tea and chill the f**k out.

[kop205]

I wasn't having a go at you, you paranoid eejit. Go and have a cup of tea and chill the f**k out.

 

 

Haha.

 

Fair enough, apologies.

[Des]

Haha.

 

Fair enough, apologies.

 

Don't worry about it. It's not a good day for any of us.

[kop205]

Don't worry about it. It's not a good day for any of us.

 

Yeah, but I posted that last night

 

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