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"He's crazy good in maximising a superiority over a defender. That's missing if he is not superior" Ha ha "If he's better you than he's great. If he's not he's s***" f***ing get rid

Yeah, jumps out a bit doesn't Can't put a price on Liverpool getting shafted can they?

As of this moment there is zero argument that he is anything other than an unmitigated flop. There's very little left to say about him and no debate to be had until such a time as he sustains performances that change minds. In the meantime, we should be busting a gut to get him sold as soon as suits.

It's the only way I think But loads aren't arsed i reckon You've got to suspect that the 114 charges are the tip of the iceberg of what has gone, whether it all ever comes out or not. No way that their actual wage bill over the last 7 years has been what they say it is. Must be so many of those Mancini deals going on. And also no way, given what they've done, that they haven't had the will and the capacity to get to refs. The Rodri handball against tge Ev, man. That waa the moment for me; having mostly felt that they wouldn't be so crude and obviuos. I saw the Stones clearance the other day for probably the first time since it happened and maybe they've now got me seeing ghosts around every corner but I swear it looked like the goal line tech stops it early, when his toe is just getting to the ball but before he actually starts moving it back into play. It's a f***ing goal.

One way or another we cannot be expected to play a league fixture against these again for a very long time

BBC talk us being 'outclassed' a) not until the sending off we weren’t b) 'class' has no business being mentioned anywhere in relation to them

Blues***e in work today saying he was made up about the result yesterday I just looked at him in bemusement and told him they've cheated them as well even if it just out of a higher league placing or holding on to a couple of players for a season or two more. 'Yeah, but it was against you so I wasn't looking at it like that'. I wouldn't just bin off City I'd bin off every club who isn't actively pushing for them to be expelled.

The last 15 years have been meaningless

What?

Yep

It's exactly what I'm being really but I'm not arsed to be honest, I'm not going to apologise for thinking that actually being there makes you better placed to judge the atmosphere of a particular game and that isn't even a dig It's just common sense

I’ve criticised it today and wasn’t there and have criticised it when I have been at games too. It was a lot better today than a normal league game in my opinion. Maybe they turn the volume down on TV, don't know. It is a weird scenario as well - torn between wanting to show hate for them and wondering why the fixture was even going ahead. Plus it just wasn't a very good game. Atmosphere rarely lasts unless the team give it reason to.

Out of interest how many saying the fans and atmosphere were s***e were there?

Boring as f*** this sneeriness about people daring to say that players haven't really done very well for us so far That is literally all it is. His 5 games or whatever don't give a basis to determine his long term value for us but they absolutely give a basis to comment on those 5 games and people can do that With Wirtz, f*** knows, is it the Emperor's New Clothes or something? People should just sit there and not mention how screamingly obvious it is that he's been really bad for us?