Something Mark Lawrenson said

[honourablegeorge]

Now, I'm not generally in the habit of listening to Lawro, but he was on radio in Ireland over the weekend, and said that he'd been speaking to Dalglish since he took the job, and apparently, Kenny spoke about how there was no banter in the changing room at all when he arrived. No mickey taking, no fun, just a dour bunch with nobody really speaking to each other.

 

It rang true when I heard it - looking at us over the past while, our squad doesn't strike me as a fun place to be. It's easy to believe that we're lacking that spirit and bond these days.

[Hassony]

I have a feeling this will be the same across the premiership, especially the bigger clubs

 

it's probably the same in other sports too

[richwilks]

It's noticable that the effort on the pitch has improved since Dalglish came in, I've heard reports that he's injected the fun back into training as well. Apparently Hodgson's training consisted of the same things over and over again and became morale sapping.

 

It's obvious that something has given Torres a huge lift.

 

It's incredible to think of just how much damage Hodgson did to this club in the short time he was here.

[honourablegeorge]

Apparently Hodgson's training consisted of the same things over and over again and became morale sapping.

 

Hodgson's training was all 11 v 11, focusing on repetition of "patterns of play". It even sounds s***.

 

Anyhow, Kenny reckoned he was goign to bring back that banter and fun - a difficult task with the mix of nationalities and cultures, I'd say. Few cheeky youngsters can't hurt.

[Rimbeux]

I have a feeling this will be the same across the premiership, especially the bigger clubs

 

it's probably the same in other sports too

 

Because of so many cultural differences or something?

 

 

I'm not sure personally, I dont see why that would be the case. I'm with the idea that we lack character and players who can assert themselves, most ours struggle to raise themselves let alone anyone around them. Nice boys maybe, but winners?

[Buzz]

Hodgson's training was all 11 v 11, focusing on repetition of "patterns of play". It even sounds s***.

 

Anyhow, Kenny reckoned he was goign to bring back that banter and fun - a difficult task with the mix of nationalities and cultures, I'd say. Few cheeky youngsters can't hurt.

Pepe needs little encouragemnet judging by the tv and youtube coverage of him!!

[Epic Swindle]

Isn't this more to do with the type of players we'd got? Bar Pepe many of them seem to be the quiet, serious, unnassuming types.

[honourablegeorge]

Chelsea have a huge mix of cultures and nationalitits, but they always seemed to have a great spirit and togetherness under Mourinho. I suppose it's easier when you're winning.

 

I get the sense Arsenal don't have much of it.

[charlie clown]

Hodgson's training was all 11 v 11, focusing on repetition of "patterns of play". It even sounds s***.

 

Anyhow, Kenny reckoned he was goign to bring back that banter and fun - a difficult task with the mix of nationalities and cultures, I'd say. Few cheeky youngsters can't hurt.

 

Jay Spearing doing a few wheelies on his BMX.

[Hassony]

Because of so many cultural differences or something?

 

 

I'm not sure personally, I dont see why that would be the case. I'm with the idea that we lack character and players who can assert themselves, most ours struggle to raise themselves let alone anyone around them. Nice boys maybe, but winners?

 

players/ staff more professional maybe, not sure, it's just a perception of the current sportsman, look at tennis, boxing, cricket...etc

 

I think we differently lack players who assert themselves, we lack real winners in the team, we also don't have players willing to put pressure on referees (apart from carragher probably)

 

Hodgson's training was all 11 v 11, focusing on repetition of "patterns of play". It even sounds s***.

 

Anyhow, Kenny reckoned he was goign to bring back that banter and fun - a difficult task with the mix of nationalities and cultures, I'd say. Few cheeky youngsters can't hurt.

 

a coaching job for Fowler maybe

[Swagger]

Jay Spearing doing a few wheelies on his BMX.

 

[Falconhoof]

Pepe needs little encouragemnet judging by the tv and youtube coverage of him!!

 

A character like might feel a bit out of water with the rest of the squad.

 

I think its an interesting observation this, first and foremost we need boss players but they have to live and breathe together. You've got to have a few characters in there, people need to have a laugh and a joke, the odd falling out even.

[Epic Swindle]

Kenny always used to say the team spirit when we were dominating football was the best he'd ever experienced and was a major part of our success. Literally like a family. It's a bigger task to bring a group of self indulged millionaires together mind.

[Gomez]

It's obvious that something has given Torres a huge lift.

 

Probably something to do with not being utilised like he was John Fashanu

[Dan]

Probably something to do with not being utilised like he was John Fashanu

 

I think it was Keys at HT who said something along the lines of "Torres was outstanding but Roy Hodgson must be sat at home thinking, I could have done with some of that".

 

Thick as pig s*** the lot of them.

[Rimbeux]

players/ staff more professional maybe, not sure, it's just a perception of the current sportsman, look at tennis, boxing, cricket...etc

 

I think we differently lack players who assert themselves, we lack real winners in the team, we also don't have players willing to put pressure on referees (apart from carragher probably)

 

 

I know what you mean about sport in general, but I think the Owen thing, the media straight bat 'I'm telling you nothing but positive cliches, doesn't necessarily follow through to what goes on behind closed doors. I think banter is just something that follows when people are comfortable.

 

I remember one company I worked for where everyone was on the make and giving it maximum corporate face all the time with their eye on the next role, no banter, no fun, just furious networking and crawling. Moved to another company that on the surface should have been no different, just as monolithic, multinational etc, but the atmosphere was totally different, no work faces, honesty, everyone pulling for each other, and good banter. It's not necessarily all about the atmosphere, but it may be telling that over a three year period one reduced it's headcount by 50%, the other increased their by the same owing to their relative performances.

[Murphman]

Hodgson's training was all 11 v 11, focusing on repetition of "patterns of play". It even sounds s***.

 

Anyhow, Kenny reckoned he was goign to bring back that banter and fun - a difficult task with the mix of nationalities and cultures, I'd say. Few cheeky youngsters can't hurt.

 

 

You can't JUST do phase of play with 11 a side, there must be small sided games in there else the side loses the ability to move the ball quickly.

 

Oh hang on a minute.......

[sangria]

players/ staff more professional maybe, not sure, it's just a perception of the current sportsman, look at tennis, boxing, cricket...etc

 

I think we differently lack players who assert themselves, we lack real winners in the team, we also don't have players willing to put pressure on referees (apart from carragher probably)

 

One of the few pleasures of last season was watching the likes of Lucas, Mascherano and Aquilani homing in on the referee whenever a decision was given against Liverpool, or running to the scene whenever a fight looked like brewing. Aquilani may not be the hardest in a head on confrontation, but by God he was a snide and cynical b*****d when he didn't have to risk his skin, and I liked him for it.

[matty]

Jay Spearing doing a few wheelies on his BMX.

Given his performance, that's the most use he'd be the club.

[allez les rouges]

Given his performance, that's the most use he'd be the club.

 

not having that, he was ok yesterday. He was 10 times better than what poulson would have been, and he only played for the first time in months this week after breaking his ankle.

[Hassony]

not having that, he was ok yesterday. He was 10 times better than what poulson would have been, and he only played for the first time in months this week after breaking his ankle.

 

that was his best performance for liverpool by a mile and he was "OK"

[Billy Dane]

If people don't enjoy going to work, they don't give of their best. Simple as that.

[Flasher]

I have a feeling this will be the same across the premiership, especially the bigger clubs

 

it's probably the same in other sports too

 

I don't. When a team is struggling, it's a brave person to break the mould and try to add some cheer, for fear of not taking things seriously. Under Hodgson, I can imagine that was the case, as he was vewy sewious.

Edited January 17, 2011 by Sugar Priest

[allez les rouges]

that was his best performance for liverpool by a mile and he was "OK"

 

 

FFS! he has just come back from 3 months or so out with a broken ankle, he has just played in his first merseyside derby where we were are a severe risk of absolute humiliation and he contributed to ensuring we put in an improved performance. and yet he still gets whinged at. give him a break will ya

[Rimbeux]

FFS! he has just come back from 3 months or so out with a broken ankle, he has just played in his first merseyside derby where we were are a severe risk of absolute humiliation and he contributed to ensuring we put in an improved performance. and yet he still gets whinged at. give him a break will ya

 

 

I goes back a long way for Has IIRC, about two years maybe to some chat about the relative merits of Levia and Spearing.