Question

[baja the hut]

With Roy possibly getting till the end of the year...if he finishes above 7th given the facts that

 

a. The club was in turmoil re: ownership during the early part of the tenure.

 

b. He had to get used to his set of players.

 

All things about the way he handles himself and the press aside. How can we say that he has done a worse job than Benitez did last year?

[Cobs]

 

good luck Baja !

Edited December 10, 2010 by Cobs

[Benzo-13]

f***s sake.

[Crazy Horse]

We've got a better manager this season than we had last. That's all there is to it.

[baja the hut]

 

good luck Baja !

 

I am merely asking the obvious question...what is this unknown thing that makes Hodgson worse than Benitez? It seems like an unnatural bias. Shared by me for a long time, until I realised that :

 

a. we had a bad fixture list for a team in transition at the start of the campaign.

 

b. we aren't too far down the table and the team seems to be settling?

[Gunga Din]

I am merely asking the obvious question...what is this unknown thing that makes Hodgson worse than Benitez? It seems like an unnatural bias. Shared by me for a long time, until I realised that :

 

a. we had a bad fixture list for a team in transition at the start of the campaign.

 

b. we aren't too far down the table and the team seems to be settling?

 

Roy isnt Rafa. for some of the more simple people on here, this is what it boils down to. someone on here said a while ago, not sure which simpleton, but iirc it was Hassony, said if we won every game for the rest of the season he would still want Roy sacked.

Edited December 10, 2010 by Gunga Din

[D.Boon]

Well worth a new thread this.

[baja the hut]

Roy isnt Rafa. for some of the more simple people on here, this is what it boils down to. someone on here said a while ago, not sure which simpleton, but iirc it was Hassony, said if Roy won every game for the rest of the season he would still want him sacked.

 

imho if he wins the rest of the fixtures, i would be firmly on his side...

 

at the end of the day....results count...

 

at the end of the season if we are above 7th (which is better than rafa managed with what could have been a stronger squad), he deserves another season.

[Benzo-13]

Well worth a new thread this.

It's like Arkham Asylum now.

[baja the hut]

Well worth a new thread this.

 

think the last bit of the old thread needed a new thread....

 

and it's not like we discuss new things everyday that every thread has to be a glorious new idea....

 

we're hardly literary avant gaurde post modern writers

[Gunga Din]

imho if he wins the rest of the fixtures, i would be firmly on his side...

 

at the end of the day....results count...

 

at the end of the season if we are above 7th (which is better than rafa managed with what could have been a stronger squad), he deserves another season.

 

if we win every game we'll be champions and win 2 cups. Hassony would still want him sacked, mind

 

imho if he wins the rest of the fixtures, i would be firmly on his side...

 

at the end of the day....results count...

 

at the end of the season if we are above 7th (which is better than rafa managed with what could have been a stronger squad), he deserves another season.

 

if he finished 4th or better it could be argued for another season. lower than that, no.

[baja the hut]

if we win every game we'll be champions and win 2 cups. Hassony would still want him sacked, mind

 

 

 

if he finished 4th or better it could be argued for another season. lower than that, no.

 

but the question is, has he done better than the previous manager? - if better than 7th yes.

 

also if he can take the team forward. - if better than 7th there is a chance that he can, because he possibly can improve the squad. but why 4th or above and not 7th or above?

[Lanus]

but the question is, has he done better than the previous manager? - if better than 7th yes.

 

also if he can take the team forward. - if better than 7th there is a chance that he can, because he possibly can improve the squad. but why 4th or above and not 7th or above?

 

If I were going to answer this seriously.. then I'd say it's hard to compare the scenarios. The club is the same , the owners are not. the mood of the players who were wearing red in both seasons is, as a result of things outside whatever manager was in charge is not the same.

 

Also, the league is very different. it seems that the top clubs have weakened slightly but also (and more so), the weaker and mid table clubs have improved this season.

 

If I were to call what would be a better performance from a manager then i'd say 5th place would be better than last season. (please no moronic argument that 5th is always better than 7th)... I am taking into account the damage that the previous owners and the rest of the things mentioned above into account.

 

might I add that he should only keep his job if we are to take a CL place... cause to be fair, we are picking on Rafa's worst season.. if we were to compare Hodgson to Rafa's best then he'd be out the door faster than etc.

Edited December 10, 2010 by Lanus

[WillG]

With Roy possibly getting till the end of the year...if he finishes above 7th given the facts that

 

a. The club was in turmoil re: ownership during the early part of the tenure.

 

b. He had to get used to his set of players.

 

All things about the way he handles himself and the press aside. How can we say that he has done a worse job than Benitez did last year?

 

HE HAS DONE A WORSE JOB THAN BENITEZ DID LAST YEAR

 

Now sure how I managed to say it but I did... so it must be true!

[Raj]

We've got a better manager this season than we had last. That's all there is to it.

 

haha

[floyd]

How can we say that he has done a worse job than Benitez did last year?

[RBM]

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Edited December 10, 2010 by Rushiesbushymoustache

[Sion]

We've got a better manager this season than we had last. That's all there is to it.

 

You're one of the weirdos who despises Rafa arent you?

Why is that?

[johngibo YPC]

We haven't reached the giddy heights of 7th yet this season.

When we do maybe we can discuss it

[David Hodgson]

We haven't reached the giddy heights of 7th yet this season.

When we do maybe we can discuss it

 

I'm not sure we were at that that lofty position at the same point last season either though tbf.

 

You're one of the weirdos who despises Rafa arent you?

Why is that?

[Jarg Armani]

Expectations expectations expectations.

[smithdown]

If he wins every game...

 

He doesn't even dream about that himself. Why the f*ck should we?

 

If he won the euromillions and gave it out to everyone registered on this board and came round to cook king prawn black pepper and ran the hoover round would you still want him sacked?

[johngibo YPC]

I'm not sure we were at that that lofty position at the same point last season either though tbf.

 

I can't remember exactly where we were. I'm pretty sure that, at some point of the season, we had been in the top 7 though

Edited December 10, 2010 by johngibo YPC

[Hightown Phil]

I'm not sure we were at that that lofty position at the same point last season either though tbf.

 

 

 

We were 5th at the end of November and 6th in mid December.

[David Hodgson]

Expectations expectations expectations.

 

Have been lowered like a mofo. Last season, and into this.