I'm a bit worried about Nando

[New York Red]

He seems to get the cr*p kicked out of him. I just saw the bearded German c*nt knobble him, but it seems to happen a lot with him.

 

He's not an actor or diver at all. He really gets kicked -- a lot.

 

I hope this doesn't build up and ultimately shorten his career. He's getting a lot of miles on him from this.

[Falconhoof]

All the greats got that sort of treatment. I remember Rush getting kicked all over the pitch at times, when they could get near him anyway. He's hard as nails, don't worry.

[Andy Mac]

I've always noticed that when his team get a corner (either or Spain) he bends over with his hands on his knees looking knackered. He does get the s*** kicked out of him though. I've backed 2-0 /3-0 /4-0 with Torres as 1st goalscorer.

 

Charrggeeee!!!!!!

[RP]

I've backed 2-0 /3-0 /4-0 with Torres as 1st goalscorer.

 

Unlucky Andy.

[Earl Hafler]

I've always noticed that when his team get a corner (either or Spain) he bends over with his hands on his knees looking knackered. He does get the s*** kicked out of him though. I've backed 2-0 /3-0 /4-0 with Torres as 1st goalscorer.

Charrggeeee!!!!!!

 

Same here - frigging conspiracy, that was

 

Torres 1st scorer, Spain ht / ft, Spain 3-0 with Torres 1st goal at 80-1.

[floyd the barber]

i had spain 1-0 torres winning goal.......

 

oh yes....won a nice 400quid!!!! gettinnnn

[Bootser]

A modest 10 English pounds on Espana @ fives to win tourney outright. Ole!

[Andy Mac]

Unlucky Andy.

 

Hmmm.....

[Guest Snorky]

I won £130 on the works sweep

[New York Red]

There's me wringing my hands about Nando, and all you shower of pathological gamblers want to do is talk about your winnings!

[fyds]

I won £130 on the works sweep

That's our f*cking transfer budget, you c*nt!

[John am Rhein]

He seems to get the cr*p kicked out of him. I just saw the bearded German c*nt knobble him, but it seems to happen a lot with him.

 

He's not an actor or diver at all. He really gets kicked -- a lot.

 

I hope this doesn't build up and ultimately shorten his career. He's getting a lot of miles on him from this.

 

He needs to dive then. Because non-divers inevitably take more punishment.

[San Diego Red]

He needs to dive then. Because non-divers inevitably take more punishment.

F*** off. I'd rather see him kicked about a little than him being a c*** and flying all over the place.

[cymrococh]

He's hard, he can take it.

 

Related though is Gerrard's seeming silence during matches. I'm not saying he should be like Roy Keane, but a quiet 'Torres is getting booted all over ref' would not go amiss. His reputation with England gives him influence in these situations, he should use it more.

 

At the very least it will give us more free-kicks in Barry Territory.

Edited June 30, 2008 by Paul Caruso

[Stevie H]

absolutely, torres is hard as nails. gives his fair share back out to defenders too, both physically and verbally. he must be an utter f***ing nightmare to play against.

[Leo No.8]

Funny enough NYR my Mrs said the same thing watching it last night; 'the way Torres throws himself into everything he'll get injured - he should be careful'. A good girl she is looking out for Fernando.

 

He's extremely strong and athletic and does seem very durable, but I can't help sh*tting myself every time he gets kicked or brought down which because of the aggressive way he plays is fairly frequent.

 

I think he's best as he is though as you tend to find the players who pull out of tackles get injured more often; it's more dangerous not to go into a tackle fully committed because if the other player is you will almost certainly come off worst.

 

Injuries are always more of a worry when you have a player who is irreplacable.

Edited June 30, 2008 by Leo No.8

[psl]

He's hard, he can take it.

 

Related though is Gerrard's seeming silence during matches. I'm not saying he should be like Roy Keane, but a quiet 'Torres is getting booted all over ref' would not go amiss. His reputation with England gives him influence in these situations, he should use it more.

 

At the very least it will give us more free-kicks in Barry Territory.

 

How do you know he doesn't do that?

[PhilM]

Torres gets kicked about a lot, but those of you who are claiming that he doesn't dive or overact are being perhaps a little biased.

[johngibo YPC]

How do you know he doesn't do that?

 

If he did you could see him

I agree with the general point. That Gerrard should be in the ref's ear more. Worst is when people are timewasting at Anfield and everyone just stands their watching him

[Hassony]

Torres gets kicked about a lot, but those of you who are claiming that he doesn't dive or overact are being perhaps a little biased.

 

He needs to dive in order not to get injured, and I have no problems with any attackers who does that (including C ronaldo), why the defenders shouldn't get punished for dangerous/ bad play

 

there are players who dive without getting touched (like Pires or Viera), these are the real cheaters

[Knox_Harrington]

If the moral of this thread is we should dive more and our leading players should be in the referee's ear more then I'm right behind it.

[PhilM]

He needs to dive in order not to get injured, and I have no problems with any attackers who does that (including C ronaldo), why the defenders shouldn't get punished for dangerous/ bad play

 

there are players who dive without getting touched (like Pires or Viera), these are the real cheaters

 

You sound like Alex Ferguson justifying a fresh batch of Ronaldo theatrics.

[Hassony]

You sound like Alex Ferguson justifying a fresh batch of Ronaldo theatrics.

 

Defenders cheat all the time, why should they be able to get away with it?

[Knox_Harrington]

You sound like Alex Ferguson justifying a fresh batch of Ronaldo theatrics.

They need no justification other than the fact they elicit results.

[PhilM]

Defenders cheat all the time, why should they be able to get away with it?

 

I wasn't arguing about whether diving is acceptable or not, just that there seems to be a blind eye turned when Torres does it. It's part and parcel of the game now. As Knox Harrington said, it's generally used to gain an advantage.

Edited June 30, 2008 by philmatthews