i was a member of a supporters club in ireland for a time. we recieved an allocation of 30 odd tickets for a man u game. the club got rid of 20 amoungst members. the rest where sold on, some even to Man u fans. it happens all the time. the same happened for a derby game, and again a number of manc fans took tickets and went to Liverpool on the piss up, and went to the game. i know this was happening in practically every other supporters club, when i spoke to members from them, and i would be astounded if things are any different now, as i am only talking 5 or 6 years ago. but if you want to think this doesnt go on, then fine, i'm not going to argue, because i know i am right about this. do travel companies charging mega bucks for tickets for these games get reduced allocations too for "big" games?