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Yeah. Can't see how they're making that a viable business with what they're paying journalists. Was talking to someone I know that's a sport's journalist the other day and he reckons that whist they got a bunch of big names, loads turned them down as they didn't think it had more than a couple of years of life and they'd then find difficulty getting work back in a conventional paper if it wall went t*** up 

 

I know of one who knocked them back because he asked who would do the Champions League Final, and the World Cup Final and all of that, given they've recruited at least 5 people who did last year's Champions League Final, for example. 

 

Their response was apparently 'If this is how you're thinking about the job, then you're coming at it from the wrong POV'

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I know of one who knocked them back because he asked who would do the Champions League Final, and the World Cup Final and all of that, given they've recruited at least 5 people who did last year's Champions League Final, for example.

 

Their response was apparently 'If this is how you're thinking about the job, then you're coming at it from the wrong POV'

That’s fair enough though isn’t it. They’re recruiting people to do in depth reporting and long read stories, not so much to do match reports

 

The question is more if it’s a sustainable business. Big leap of faith for a senior journalist with a secure (ish) job at a broadsheet

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A lot of that reporting comes from talking to the people involved though, you couldn't do the piece that James Pearce wrote about the Wednesday to Saturday turnaround without being in the grounds talking to the people involved in the mixed zone and all that.

 

The concept of a match report is basically dead in terms of what it used to be. It's about what people say afterwards that the stories come from now, to the point where a friend of mine was doing a Burnley game on a Saturday afternoon, turned the TV on and noticed Burnley were playing. He was completely unaware it was a 12.30 kick off, but managed to get there for the 70th minute, go straight to the media room, get all of the quotes and write a report for a couple of the Monday papers. He could have written what happened in the game if he'd stayed at home, but it isn't really relevant. 

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If it fails I'd be shocked if the likes of Pearce and Simon Hughes couldn't get work. There are loads of far worse journalists only covering Liverpool who get plenty of work.

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If it fails I'd be shocked if the likes of Pearce and Simon Hughes couldn't get work. There are loads of far worse journalists only covering Liverpool who get plenty of work.

 

Look at Bascombe when the NOTW went to the wall for example. Walked in to the Merseyside role at the Telegraph. 

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It's a bit different to the usual few journalists moving on every year.  The Athletic has decimated some sports desks (Times got particularly badly hit apparently) and those positions will all get filled - then if The Athletic doesn't work you'll get a lot of experienced writers on big money all looking for jobs again - but without those positions existing any more and a lot of annoyance in the industry about the way The Athletic have gone about their business. Some will get work obviously - but there'll potentially be lots of journalists going for not many positions - and they won't be in a strong bargaining position as far as salary is concerned

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But they'll have earned a fortune while the going's good, and I would imagine that sports journalism is already incredibly difficult to be succesful in, so these people with existing audience/contacts, proven skills etc. will always be in demand.

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But they'll have earned a fortune while the going's good, and I would imagine that sports journalism is already incredibly difficult to be succesful in, so these people with existing audience/contacts, proven skills etc. will always be in demand.

 

Like I say, some of them would get back in - but all their replacements will have had a few years of cultivating contacts of their own in that time. It can be a pretty cut-throat industry

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I can’t get excited for these people. I want them to fail and I hate hearing about them.

Exactly where I am.

 

A load of silicon valley bell-pieces who like to think of themselves as “disrupters”.

 

Also, the the idea of paying for opinion pieces on our club is ballbags. I scoffed at the Tomkins Times, I scoff at this.

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“We will wait every local paper out and let them continuously bleed until we are the last ones standing,” Alex Mather, a co-founder of The Athletic, said in an interview in San Francisco. “We will suck them dry of their best talent at every moment. We will make business extremely difficult for them.”

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“We will wait every local paper out and let them continuously bleed until we are the last ones standing,” Alex Mather, a co-founder of The Athletic, said in an interview in San Francisco. “We will suck them dry of their best talent at every moment. We will make business extremely difficult for them.”

 

"A bunch of mindless jerks who'll be first against the wall when the revolution comes"

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I haven’t seen anything copied and pasted, is that because of solidarity with your silicone valley pals, greed and selfishness due to paying a sub, or is there some sort of block on copying and pasting?

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I haven’t seen anything copied and pasted, is that because of solidarity with your silicone valley pals, greed and selfishness due to paying a sub, or is there some sort of block on copying and pasting?

Here’s one

 

Rhian Brewster had barely had the chance to work up a sweat when the number nine went up on the board to reveal that his race was run.

 

Just 15 minutes had elapsed in Liverpool Under-23s’ Premier 2 clash with Derby County at the Kirkby Academy on Saturday when the gifted young striker was taken off.

 

As he trudged towards the touchline, a baffled look was soon replaced by an understanding nod and a sense of excitement about what lay ahead.

 

Brewster was informed by manager Neil Critchley that a call had come through from Anfield asking for the teenager to be substituted immediately. Under-18 coach Barry Lewtas had been given the task of passing his phone to Critchley. The message from Jurgen Klopp’s assistant Pep Lijnders was clearly urgent.

 

 

Brief encounter: Brewster before the Derby County match. (Photo: Nick Taylor/Liverpool FC/Liverpool FC via Getty Images)

With Divock Origi expected to be sidelined for up to a fortnight after damaging his ankle in the Premier League win over Newcastle United earlier in the day, Brewster was going to be promoted to the first-team squad for the Champions League trip to Napoli. Klopp didn’t want to run the risk of the youngster picking up a knock against Derby.

 

For Brewster, opportunity knocks — some two years after he burst on to the scene by firing England’s under-17 team to World Cup glory.

 

The senior Liverpool debut he has long since craved is finally within touching distance. If it doesn’t come off the bench in the hostile surroundings of Stadio San Paolo, where he visited yesterday, on Tuesday night or at Stamford Bridge on Sunday then he’s almost certain to play a part in next week’s League Cup tie at MK Dons.

 

It’s not been an easy time for Brewster since his heroics in India, where his eight-goal haul for his country secured the Golden Boot and marked him out as one of English football’s most prodigious young talents. He has had to sit and watch as his mates from the England youth ranks have made the leap on to the big stage ahead of him.

 

From Steve Cooper’s World Cup-winning team, it’s been Jadon Sancho (Borussia Dortmund), Phil Foden (Manchester City), Callum Hudson-Odoi (Chelsea) and Morgan Gibbs-White (Wolverhampton Wanderers) who have really kicked on. Now, belatedly, it’s Brewster’s turn to show that he can also deliver at the top level.

 

The 19-year-old has battled back after having his world rocked by the serious injury he suffered playing for Liverpool Under 23 against Manchester City in January 2018. He landed awkwardly after challenging for a header and had to be taken off on a stretcher. Two operations followed to repair ligaments in his ankle and meniscus cartilage in his knee. Klopp insisted on Brewster doing his rehabilitation programme at Melwood rather than the Academy — a gesture designed to show the teenager how highly he was regarded.

 

During those dark days, Brewster developed a close friendship with midfielder Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, who had ruptured knee ligaments in the Champions League semi-final against Roma. He refers to Oxlade-Chamberlain as “my big bro”. They would spur each other on in the gym while their team-mates trained outside.

 

There was a period in the summer of 2018 when Liverpool genuinely feared they would lose Brewster. Offers of a first professional contract had been rejected and his agent Leon Anderson was exploring the prospect of Brewster following in the footsteps of Sancho by heading to the Bundesliga. Those close to him were concerned that with Daniel Sturridge, Origi, Dominic Solanke and Danny Ings as back-up to Roberto Firmino, Brewster wouldn’t get a look in.

 

Borussia Monchengladbach led the chase to secure his services but their persistence was unwelcome. Liverpool threatened them with a tapping-up charge and cancelled a pre-season friendly in protest at their advances.

 

In July 2018 Brewster ended speculation about his future by signing a deal to keep him at Anfield until 2023. Klopp’s input was crucial, with the Liverpool manager giving Brewster assurances that he would be in his plans once he had regained full fitness.

 

Similar concerns about whether he would get the chance to shine led him to Merseyside in the first place. Born and raised in East London, Brewster’s father Ian is from Barbados and his mother Hulya Hassan is Turkish-Cypriot.

 

Brewster was signed from the Shield Academy in Ilford, Essex, by Chelsea at the age of seven. Arsenal, West Ham and Charlton Athletic had also shown interest. He spent seven years at the Chelsea Academy but his father, a lifelong Liverpool fan, grew frustrated at the lack of opportunities being given to young players at Stamford Bridge.

 

In 2015 the decision was taken that Brewster’s career would be best served by relocating north. He wasn’t short of offers but Liverpool’s hand was strengthened by the presence of Academy coach Michael Beale. Now first-team coach under Steven Gerrard at Rangers, Beale had been influential in Brewster’s early development at Chelsea.

 

“I didn’t see a pathway to becoming a first-team player at Chelsea,” Brewster said. “There were a few clubs interested but once I knew Liverpool were one of them it was an easy choice. Liverpool is a club that does give young players opportunities.”

 

Brewster quickly settled and started to flourish. He was just 16 when he caught Klopp’s eye with a hat-trick at Melwood in a behind-closed-doors friendly against Accrington Stanley in November 2016. The following January he scored on his debut for the under-23 side against Ipswich.

 

Academy director Alex Inglethorpe has always been keen for his players to see life outside of the bubble. Community visits are designed to open their eyes and keep feet firmly on the floor. Just days after scoring a hat-trick for England Under 17 against Croatia, Brewster was scrubbing the toilets in a Merseyside homeless shelter with his Academy team-mates.

 

He also benefited massively from working with Gerrard during his year-long stint in charge of the club’s under-18 side. They spent hours on the training ground working on Brewster’s movement. There were also regular one-to-one finishing sessions with Steve McManaman, who acts as a mentor for academy players.

 

Brewster speaks with maturity beyond his years and showed guts to make a stand against racism after being abused while playing for both club and country. After 14 months out, he finally returned to competition action for Liverpool Under 23s back in April and went on to make the bench for the miraculous Champions League semi-final second leg fightback against Barcelona at Anfield.

 

On the eve of that game, Klopp said: “Next season he will be playing 100 percent and he knows that. I have told him already.”

 

Since then Brewster has collected Champions League and Super Cup winners’ medals after being an unused substitute on both occasions. He also scored four goals in the club’s senior pre-season friendlies, including a penalty against Borussia Dortmund in the USA when he gleefully accepted Jordan Henderson’s invitation to take it and nonchalantly stuck it in the top corner.

 

In the early stages of this season he’s found himself dropping back down to the under-23 side to get game-time after spending the week training at Melwood. Not anymore. He’s with the big boys in Naples.

 

Brewster’s rich potential was the key reason why Klopp decided he didn’t need to replace Sturridge when his contract expired in the summer. He’s had to be patient and there have been some bumps along the way, but the next step in the teenager’s rise up the ranks is now tantalisingly close.

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