T'Owners

[Andy @ Allerton]

Talking to someone that 'is in the know' as they say. And it makes not good reading.

 

The following was disclosed;

 

* The Owners want shot of Rafa and they want him to resign and they will stop at nothing to ensure he does so ASAP

* Rafa WILL have to sell and there will be no (or very little) money available

* Babel, Degen, Insua, Dossena, Aurelio are all going to be sold

* Other players are going to be touted around

* They have no interest in the club as a going sporting concern. They just want to hold on and sell for a profit.

 

 

This is a decent source and I don't see a reason to disbelieve any of the above given the reliable stuff I've been told. I don't usually post what I've been told (I think this is about my first) - but this is so s*** that I thought I might as well.

[Red]

I thought Hicks was Rafa's ally?

[Dan]

Talking to someone that 'is in the know' as they say. And it makes not good reading.

 

The following was disclosed;

 

* The Owners want shot of Rafa and they want him to resign and they will stop at nothing to ensure he does so ASAP

* Rafa WILL have to sell and there will be no (or very little) money available

* Babel, Degen, Insua, Dossena, Aurelio are all going to be sold

* Other players are going to be touted around

* They have no interest in the club as a going sporting concern. They just want to hold on and sell for a profit.

This is a decent source and I don't see a reason to disbelieve any of the above given the reliable stuff I've been told. I don't usually post what I've been told (I think this is about my first) - but this is so s*** that I thought I might as well.

 

Can't see him selling all our left backs!

[richwilks]

Can't see him selling all our left backs!

 

 

He'd be putting a hell of a lot of faith in Kelly, Mavinga and Bauchtmann if he did that unless he had another player coming in.

 

I thought Hicks mentioned that some of the shirt sponsorship money for this year would be available in January. Ah well. Tossers.

[Ed-Zeppelin]

Does this mean they are actively looking to sell now but that they are not going to invest at all in the club in the meantime or that, as has been suggested before, that they are happy for us to fall back to mid-table if we sit there whilst they pay off the debt and attempt to build the stadium in the belief this will increase their profit?

 

I would hope for the former on the basis that they should, in theory, be gone sooner.

 

In either scenario I just can't see how they will make a profit based on the fact that they bought a club near the top and without good investment are likely to be selling a club in the middle of the league, and at this rate without a new stadium.

 

Can't help but think they just didn't get what was needed to sustain success in the PL, it's nowhere near the setup of any league in the US and I also don't buy into their supposed belief that our fan base is sufficient to sustain their debt repayments regardless of where we are. I'm sure Anfield will remain full for most games if we're in the PL but we'll lose masses of plastic fans who might not come to Anfield but do buy merchandise etc. We'll also lose money from European football and our advertising and marketing revenue would surely drop?

 

It just doesn't add up and if they remain with their current attitude the only thing I can see happening is us declining.

 

Depressing.

[Stevie H]

* The Owners want shot of Rafa and they want him to resign and they will stop at nothing to ensure he does so ASAP

* Rafa WILL have to sell and there will be no (or very little) money available

* Babel, Degen, Insua, Dossena, Aurelio are all going to be sold

* Other players are going to be touted around

* They have no interest in the club as a going sporting concern. They just want to hold on and sell for a profit.

This is a decent source and I don't see a reason to disbelieve any of the above given the reliable stuff I've been told. I don't usually post what I've been told (I think this is about my first) - but this is so s*** that I thought I might as well.

 

did your friend give you any idea of what tactics they're using to try and force his resignation? (and don't say 4-2-3-1).

[Ed-Zeppelin]

did your friend give you any idea of what tactics they're using to try and force his resignation? (and don't say 4-2-3-1).

 

This is surely one occasion where Rafa's stubborness and genuine affection for us is a real bonus.

 

I reckon he'd love nothing more than to see them off.

[growler]

they are giving him money in Jan, otherwise he would have to sell players to keep the club afloat.

 

Also, there is enough money in the premier league to keep us in the top half running on minimal net spend for the next 3-5 years, and paying down the debt (60mil a year straight in the capital, plus a 'torres', 'Alonso' or 'Reina' type sell will do that) and then build the stadium with new debt.

Edited December 22, 2009 by growler

[mofus77]

We're well and truly fecked. If we miss out in the top 4, City or someone will take our spot and we will drop into the chasing pack without the resources to get back again. For me this is not only about this season but about the entire future of our club and it's ability to challenge for trophies for the foreseeable future.

 

This is depressing but ultimately without CL money and with these leeches at the helm we can't do it. We're doomed, doomed I tells ya....

[Mike]

Can't see him selling all our left backs!

 

haha

 

b******s story

[Hassony]

haha

 

b******s story

 

of course it is

 

They want Rafa to resign because we are looking like not making it to the CL, than they want to sell half the team and sell on for profit?

 

makes a lot of sense

[Andy @ Allerton]

did your friend give you any idea of what tactics they're using to try and force his resignation? (and don't say 4-2-3-1).

 

 

He just said that they will sell players from under Rafa and won't invest in new players until he leaves. I guess the proof of this will be in this Januarys transfer window and maybe next summer as well.

[Andy @ Allerton]

haha

 

b******s story

 

Let's hope so. I've never posted what he's said in the past - and he's always been 100% right in the past.

 

Let's hope this is the one time he's wrong.

[Hassony]

He just said that they will sell players from under Rafa and won't invest in new players until he leaves. I guess the proof of this will be in this Januarys transfer window and maybe next summer as well.

 

That's a bit stupid considering Keegan got a decent compensation from Newcastle for doing exactly that to him

[Flanders]

* They have no interest in the club as a going sporting concern. They just want to hold on and sell for a profit.

 

Makes no sense, profitability in a football club is linked to 'sporting' success. Maybe the long term plan is to rape the club in order to pay the debt off over the coming years and then sell for whatever it's worth, and that's the profit. Sounds like a s*** plan to me, these c**** will have died of old age by then.

 

How do they propose to make Rafa resign? Have they heard of constructive dismissal!

[Andy @ Allerton]

That's a bit stupid considering Keegan got a decent compensation from Newcastle for doing exactly that to him

 

Stupidity appears to be the order of the day with the owners. I have no idea whatsoever the game they are playing - and as I've said before - their actions make no apparant sense. I just don't get it. At all.

[Andy @ Allerton]

Makes no sense, profitability in a football club is linked to 'sporting' success. Maybe the long term plan is to rape the club in order to pay the debt off over the coming years and then sell for whatever it's worth, and that's the profit. Sounds like a s*** plan to me, these c**** will have died of old age by then.

 

How do they propose to make Rafa resign? Have they heard of constructive dismissal!

 

 

They probably haven't. There are a lot of cases where American Corporations buy UK concerns (or concerns with UK Staff) and attempt to sack everyone and asset-strip, but are then stopped by UK law. Happens all the time. My company had the same.

Edited December 22, 2009 by Andy

[Flanders]

They probably haven't. There are a lot of cases where American Corporations buy UK concerns (or concerns with UK Staff) and attempt to sack everyone and asset-strip, but are then stopped by UK law. Happens all the time. My company had the same.

Shame UK law couldn't stop them from sellling Torres!

 

They could kill two birds with one stone in January by selling a big name, not necessarily Torres or Gerrard, get some more money in and see Rafa resign. I can't see him being forced out by the sale of the payers you mention in your first post.

Edited December 22, 2009 by Flanders

[Flight]

Makes no sense, profitability in a football club is linked to 'sporting' success. Maybe the long term plan is to rape the club in order to pay the debt off over the coming years and then sell for whatever it's worth, and that's the profit. Sounds like a s*** plan to me, these c**** will have died of old age by then.

 

 

 

 

'Profit in sport does not necessitate winning. It has to do with the brand and fan affinity.' Tom Hicks

[Flanders]

'Profit in sport does not necessitate winning. It has to do with the brand and fan affinity.' Tom Hicks

No coincidence that he bought this club then, at pretty much everyother the brand and fan affinity follow the league table!

[Cobs]

Stupidity appears to be the order of the day with the owners.

 

 

I hate these multi-millionaire morons

[Stevie H]

'Profit in sport does not necessitate winning. It has to do with the brand and fan affinity.' Tom Hicks

'people in asia will keep on buying the merchandise whatever the team's results'. f***ing flabby texan s***house c***.

[magneto]

Out of interest, has Moores been seen at Anfield in the last few months?

[The Hitman]

If they werent bothered about us as a sporting side,why would they be so fussed about getting rid of rafa? Lots of extra hassle and potential cost.

[Andy @ Allerton]

If they werent bothered about us as a sporting side,why would they be so fussed about getting rid of rafa? Lots of extra hassle and potential cost.

 

I'm just guessing here but he's not a yes man. Clearly doesn't like either of them. Probably annoys them because he publically has a go.

 

If they get someone in that will toe the line, not make a fuss, keep the club comfortable in the top flight and follows their orders without rocking the boat, they'd probably prefer that.