Stevie H Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 they didn't deserve to leave with no points, they looked a more than average side and we really got out of jail there. made up with the three points but by christ we'd better start getting it together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stressederic Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 Southgate's doing a decent job there. I think the real test for them will come when they get further into the season and play against some of the mid-table teams. Boro always raise their game agaisnt us, Chelsea, Arsenal and United. It's against the rest where they blow hot and cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sion Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 (edited) ''they didn't deserve to leave with no points'' always find this statement bizarreit's not like we got a lucky penwe scored 2, they scored 1, therefore they deserved nothing?a team that tries to defend a 1-0 at anfield, and who are even more long ball than us, especially less deserving. Edited August 23, 2008 by Sion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo Benn Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 Agree losing the 94th is s***ty. However looking over whole game I think we were the better team. We were lucky getting 3 points after playing a pretty dire game but Boro were not better. As bad at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Hafler Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 ''they didn't deserve to leave with no points'' always find this statement bizarreit's not like we got a lucky penwe scored 2, they scored 1, therefore they deserved nothing?a team that tries to defend a 1-0 at anfield, and who are even more long ball that us, especially less deserving. They were unfortunate. Deflected equaliser when we had created few chances and they had defended so well and had created at least one other clear cut chance. I'd have been happy with a draw after that performance. A win is a steal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimbeux Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 I thought both sides were decent up front, solid at the back but garbage in midfield. Boro can at least claim to not have the wages and fees to get the talent we put out there. The other half of our midfield is getting better by being away and cannot return soon enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie H Posted August 23, 2008 Author Share Posted August 23, 2008 ''they didn't deserve to leave with no points'' always find this statement bizarreit's not like we got a lucky penwe scored 2, they scored 1, therefore they deserved nothing?a team that tries to defend a 1-0 at anfield, and who are even more long ball than us, especially less deserving.a***. they played well, they took it to us, they had their share. they left with nothing. respect and move along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie H Posted August 23, 2008 Author Share Posted August 23, 2008 I thought both sides were decent up front, solid at the back but garbage in midfield. Boro can at least claim to not have the wages and fees to get the talent we put out there. The other half of our midfield is getting better by being away and cannot return soon enoughwas never pretty but i'm really hoping that rafa is waiting for javier to come back before launching 4-2-3-1 on us. 4-4-2 will see us finish midtable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimbeux Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 (edited) was never pretty but i'm really hoping that rafa is waiting for javier to come back before launching 4-2-3-1 on us. 4-4-2 will see us finish midtable. Aye, otherwise we seem incapable of passing through midfield or on the floor Edited August 23, 2008 by Rimbeux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Funke Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 Its part of our problem, we show teams like Boro far too much respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimbeux Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 Its part of our problem, we show teams like Boro far too much respect. I dont think we showed them too much respect, whatever that means, we didn't pass the ball well and so struggled to dominate or even control the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie H Posted August 23, 2008 Author Share Posted August 23, 2008 Its part of our problem, we show teams like Boro far too much respect.don't think it was that, they just came and did their jobs almost spot on. we look uninventive and for some reason, nervous. we're way better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmylibel Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 don't think it was that, they just came and did their jobs almost spot on. we look uninventive and for some reason, nervous. we're way better than that. Gerrard unfit and no playing well, Xabi having a bit of a mare. I honestly think it's that simple. They're the fulcrum of our passing - if they're not right the rest won't be. That said I do agree that we'll be better going 4-2-3-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Hafler Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 (edited) don't think it was that, they just came and did their jobs almost spot on. we look uninventive and for some reason, nervous. we're way better than that. I think he'a partly right. To break down teams like that you need to double up on defenders, usually by having the fullbacks attack. Arbeloa and Dossena did too little of that and the midfield didn't support enough, either. I f***ing detest the way we launch longballs forward from our own half in the vain hope that our forwards - who aren't known for their aerial prowess - can both get to the ball and retain possession. Edited August 23, 2008 by Earl Hafler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Palmer Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 don't think it was that, they just came and did their jobs almost spot on. we look uninventive and for some reason, nervous. we're way better than that. so they did Steve, and they will beat more than they lose If they continue to be as well organised, but we have played 2 teams that I think will surprise a few people this season and have came away with maximum points. we deserve credit for that, not that we will get it. i think when Masch comes back we will revert to the formation that was so successful last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie H Posted August 23, 2008 Author Share Posted August 23, 2008 Gerrard unfit and no playing well, Xabi having a bit of a mare. I honestly think it's that simple. They're the fulcrum of our passing - if they're not right the rest won't be. That said I do agree that we'll be better going 4-2-3-1i think the formation thing this season is massive mate. rafa must know that gerrard can't play that deep? (yes, i know he scored the winner). I think he'a partly right. To break down teams like that you need to double up on defenders, usually by having the fullbacks attack. Arbeloa and Dossena did too little of that and the midfield didn't support enough, either. I f***ing detest the way we launch longballs forward from our own half in the vain hope that our forwards - who aren't known for their aerial prowess - can both get to the ball and retain possession.difficult for them to have any impact when an opponent sits that deep and counter attacks to well. but we could use them better. in a 4-2-3-1. so they did Steve, and they will beat more than they lose If they continue to be as well organised, but we have played 2 teams that I think will surprise a few people this season and have came away with maximum points. we deserve credit for that, not that we will get it. i think when Masch comes back we will revert to the formation that was so successful last year.agree with first part and second part, really hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmylibel Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 i think the formation thing this season is massive mate. rafa must know that gerrard can't play that deep? (yes, i know he scored the winner). I agree it's important that we use that formation and we'll be a much better side for it. But I think the reason we've been playing so poorly in the past few games comes down to a lack of fitness amongst some key players and our central midfielders not passing very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Palmer Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 I agree it's important that we use that formation and we'll be a much better side for it. But I think the reason we've been playing so poorly in the past few games comes down to a lack of fitness amongst some key players and our central midfielders not passing very well. Yeah, the spanish lads came back a few weeks late and Gerrard missed a couple of weeks, I expect everything to click into place just before the next international break... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rory Fitzgerald Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 I said to one of the lads in the boozer that before the game that I'd take that Tuncay Sanli fella, he is wasted at Boro. Then he goes and nearly pulls a Bergkamp ?!? The guy is quality and continued his form from last season into the Euro's and now the this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swipe Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 I said to one of the lads in the boozer that before the game that I'd take that Tuncay Sanli fella, he is wasted at Boro. Then he goes and nearly pulls a Bergkamp ?!? The guy is quality and continued his form from last season into the Euro's and now the this season. Was awesome turn but he should have scored. Either side and pepe had no chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anny road Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 anyone who doesnt think Boro were unlucky needs there heads testing i like Southgate...he is doing a ggod job, bringing kids through and has made some good signings I like Wheater and Downing, Mido and Tuncay are good signings imo that turn by Tuncay was fantastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymrococh Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 Wheater's a good player, Mido looks like he'll get a fair amount of goals. We weren't lucky, but they were unlucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerrardrules Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 Southgate's game plan was excellent. Allowing no space in the centre of the pitch. Our movement was poor as well as our passing.Our lack of width contributed to our bad play. Expecyt the same on Wednesday. Thought Carra's shot was going for the top corner anyway. Overall we were lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anny road Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 Southgate's game plan was excellent. Allowing no space in the centre of the pitch. Our movement was poor as well as our passing.Our lack of width contributed to our bad play. Expecyt the same on Wednesday. Thought Carra's shot was going for the top corner anyway. Overall we were lucky. sat right behind it it was going just wide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rory Fitzgerald Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 Boro were unlucky purely on the basis that we were bad, not that they were anything special. Our incoherent display gave them a chance of something. If Boro gave that same performance at Anfield later in the season when we are on decent form then I think we'd win and there would not be any dispute about 'chance' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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