Since when has the CL become the Holy grail...

[Chili Palmer]

of football? when we were in 2 of the last 3 years finals it was viewed as second to the premiership, but now sky/talksport have changed their minds!<BR><BR>dicks.

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

well it's the biggest Cup comp in the world. The WC can go & f***

[Guy_Incognito]

It is reasonably interesting how last season everyone was banging on about how it was impossible to win the EC and compete in the league anymore, and now that's been shown to be bollix.

 

As it was the season before when the Spanish Champions won it. But everyone chose to ignore that. As well as almost every year before that for some time

[Ostrich Man]

2005?

[Guest Anders Honoré]

it was always the holy grail.

[Billy Dane]

England not being at Euro 2008 is one reason that the media are going into over drive about an all English CL final.

[Ostrich Man]

it was always the holy grail.

Do you think Shankly thought so?

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

it's certainly not the holy grail.

 

It is a fecking immense cup to win. Except this season when two teams who clearly bribe refs got to the final.

 

Roman, in Russia!!! Well, I never saw that coming

[Sion]

I think it's an incredbily easy compeition to win if the draw favours you. Like Chelsea this year.

[Billy Dane]

Were you pissed off when people said that about us in 2005?

[Sion]

Were you pissed off when people said that about us in 2005?

 

the draw didn't exactly favour us did it?

[Billy Dane]

No it didn't but it didn't stop the media etc saying it was easy for us. When all's said and done Chelsea and Utd have beaten what has been put in front of them in the biggest European club competition to get to the final.

 

If we had got there, we would have laughed at anyone saying we had an easy draw - which we did, certainly up to Arsenal.

[psl]

No it didn't but it didn't stop the media etc saying it was easy for us. When all's said and done Chelsea and Utd have beaten what has been put in front of them in the biggest European club competition to get to the final.

 

If we had got there, we would have laughed at anyone saying we had an easy draw - which we did, certainly up to Arsenal.

 

Inter?

[Sion]

If we'd have won it this year it would been the biggest CL winning achievement ever IMO.

From the position we were in the group, to beat Inter, Arsenal, Chelsea and United would have been special.

Anyway, the fact you can lose a load of games and still win makes a mockery of the competiton.

[Billy Dane]

Apparently they are s****. (according to Andy Gray anyway )

[RP]

... we would have laughed at anyone saying we had an easy draw - which we did, certainly up to Arsenal.

 

 

That's total f*cking b*llocks.

[Lee W]

2005?

 

 

together with 1977, 1978, 1981, 1984.....yes.

 

Do you think Shankly thought so?

 

But for a dodgy referee maybe.

 

Think he was more concerned about us being a bastion of invincibility, which Ferguson is still trying to overcome.

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

if you want to talk about easy draws, the Mancs have practically had a bye this year

[Barnesy_10]

if you want to talk about easy draws, the Mancs have practically had a bye this year

too f***ing right they have. Barca probably the easiest of the lot.

[growler]

to be honest, all 4 english clubs had a bye, until they faced each other. Which team other than the top 4 here were even in with a chance? this year and potentially next will be the easiest european cups to win because of the lack of competition. real madrid have done nothing, Barce will be rebuilding, Athletico, first season in, Inter rebuilding, Juve first season back, Milan missing out, Bayern first season back.

 

Really, unless the draw puts the english clubs against each other earlier, I would expect all four of us in the semi's, just because there is no competition.

[Ostrich Man]

together with 1977, 1978, 1981, 1984.....yes.

But for a dodgy referee maybe.

 

Think he was more concerned about us being a bastion of invincibility, which Ferguson is still trying to overcome.

shadows getting smaller every year eh?

[Woodsyla]

shadows getting smaller every year eh?

still in it though

[Ostrich Man]

forever?

[Andy @ Allerton]

forever?

 

 

You've got to win it as many times as you've ever won it to pull ahead and hope like hell that we don't win it again.

 

Given Rafas expertise in that competition I wouldn't get too cocky if I was a Manc football follower

[Cobs]

forever?

well, for the past 100 or so years