I'll give you committed - he is that, but so is Robbie Savage. I also concede that it's not his fault he's been so indulged by everyone but he has consistantly concentrated his energies on maintaining his status via PR and spin (the flying boot incident before he left utd was a perfect example of this, so was yesterdays weeping imo) rather than improving his game and maximising his talents. It's a pity cos he could've been remembered as an England footballing great - all he'll be remembered for is his extraordinarily ubiquitous image.