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He was always decent when he played last year. He's great cover but we should be having better centre backs than him in the squad, the issue we have at the moment is that we don't.

 

Skrtel is endlessly more confident alongside Soto than Carragher.

 

The thing with Skrtel is, he's much, much better playing at RCB than LCB. Although there is only a subtle positional change, the impact is huge. When partnered with Carra, he's always the LCB and a lot of his problems (apart from his heading) is when he moves to cover the LB.

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The thing with Skrtel is, he's much, much better playing at RCB than LCB. Although there is only a subtle positional change, the impact is huge. When partnered with Carra, he's always the LCB and a lot of his problems (apart from his heading) is when he moves to cover the LB.

 

if that's the case then why don't we see more of him and agger together... allowing for aggers injuries!

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if that's the case then why don't we see more of him and agger together... allowing for aggers injuries!

 

Kyrgiakos is our best defender in the air by a mile. If we intend to drop him to play Skrtel/Agger, i'd like to see Martin Kelly play in one of the fullback positions and help out with crosses coming in from the opposite side.

 

We really should have got Engelaar instead of Poulsen as he would have offered something different to our midfield and isnt completely one faceted like Paul Scharner.

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my personal opinion of cahill is that he's more of the same. he may be better than what we have in different aspects, but i've never quite been convinced that he's the big, dominant beast of a centre half we need. albeit a decent footballer and a competetive premiership defender. may be wrong on that. haven't seen all that much of him.

 

rami's built a bit more like kyriagkos. probably a bit more mobile and better on the ground than him. maybe alex would be a decent comparison (in type. harder to make the judgement in terms of quality). he takes free kicks in a similar way, certainly.

 

haven't seen anything of munoz, but his name was mentioned to me by an italian mate who i was with in naples.

Cheers for that.

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Rory Smith:

 

Anfield in recent months has hardly been the stamping ground of heroes. The last year has been one of witnessing each and every one of Liverpool’s most revered icons fall from grace.

 

Steven Gerrard, Merseyside’s Ajax, has at times seemed conquered by his own sorrow at the sight of the club he has devoted his life to begin to stutter and stumble. Fernando Torres, formerly every inch an Achilles, has found his legs peppered with weaknesses, his fallibility evident to all. The suspicion lingers that Jamie Carragher, like Nestor, is too old to engage in combat.

 

One man, though, has transcended the wreckage of 12 months of despair and doubt to emerge with his reputation not only intact but enhanced. That man is Sotirios Kyrgiakos. Hence the sequence of rather unnecessary Iliadic parallels.

 

To recap: when Kyrgiakos set sail for Merseyside, that fabled land of demigods, from AEK Athens, he did so as the nominal replacement for Sami Hyypia. It was quite a task. Hyypia, of course, had been one of the club’s greatest servants, a rock at the heart of the defence for Gerard Houllier and Rafael Benitez for a decade.

 

Kyrgiakos, on the other hand, had failed at Rangers, endured a torrid time at Eintracht Frankfurt and retreated to the shadow of the Acropolis, seemingly content to play out his career in his homeland. There might have been a case to make him a £1.5 million back-up, a last resort, as Benitez apparently intended him to be.

 

At Liverpool at the end of the first decade of the 21st century, though, nothing goes to plan. Injury troubles across the backline meant Kyrgiakos was cast into battle. His initial skirmishes hardly suggested a future replete with glory. He was at fault for both Bolton goals when Benitez’s side won 3-2 at the Reebok a year ago, while it was his slip which allowed Lisandro Lopez to all but eliminate Liverpool from the Champions League in Lyon last November.

 

Liverpool fans, presumably, hoped that would be the end of him. Kyrgiakos, though, is made of sterner stuff. He persevered. He became a cult hero for his unstinting commitment, his refusal to wilt, his effort and his enthusiasm, whatever his lack of natural ability. There are those who say he does not deserve to wear such famous armour (sorry, sorry…) as the red shirt of Liverpool. There are others who would remark that if there were more like him, more who could mirror his determination, Anfield would not have been plunged into such a state of crisis.

 

Not in the sense that all of his team-mates must aspire to his level of talent, of course. Kyrgiakos is, by all traditional measurements, the worst player at Liverpool (which, given that some of those team-mates are Ryan Babel, Paul Konchesky and Christian Poulsen, is some accolade). His first touch is poor, his pace absent, his ability to retain possession rudimentary.

 

And yet it would be easy to make a case for him being Liverpool’s best player since that night in Lyon. Almost alone among his outfield team-mates, whenever Kyrgiakos plays, he does his job. He is employed to win headers. So he does. In both boxes. He is tasked with making hefty challenges, of clearing the area in front of Pepe Reina of danger. So he does. His abilities are not glamorous, they are not likely to inspire YouTube compilations or paeans of praise from observers, but he is what he is. In a team where so many are not what they were or so far from what they could be, he stands alone, never shirking or stinting, as Liverpool’s unlikely Olympian

 

 

 

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Kyrgiakos is, by all traditional measurements, the worst player at Liverpool (which, given that some of those team-mates are Ryan Babel, Paul Konchesky and Christian Poulsen, is some accolade). His first touch is poor, his pace absent, his ability to retain possession rudimentary

 

Thats f***ing harsh on Soti there.

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He's f***ing s*** if we're being honest.

 

 

He's 6'4" of pure f***ing stuck in. He seem to relish the challenge, and that just highlights the absence of graft elsewhere in the side.

 

Carragher was always a triumph of effort and commitment over natural ability, and he was rightly praised for it. The Greek is no different.

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He's 6'4" of pure f***ing stuck in. He seem to relish the challenge, and that just highlights the absence of graft elsewhere in the side.

 

Carragher was always a triumph of effort and commitment over natural ability, and he was rightly praised for it. The Greek is no different.

Hang on a minute.

 

Now I'm one who thinks its time to ease Carra out of the team but at his peak he played against the likes of Barca, Real, Juve, Inter, Milan, Chelsea, Utd etc and was not found wanting.

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Hang on a minute.

 

Now I'm one who thinks its time to ease Carra out of the team but at his peak he played against the likes of Barca, Real, Juve, Inter, Milan, Chelsea, Utd etc and was not found wanting.

 

 

Absolutely. Because he worked so hard, trained so hard, and gave so much. Not suggesting that the Greek is better, nor assuming that he can hit those heights. Just that sometimes, I can admire effort and grit as much as skill.

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He's the defensive equivalent of Kuyt.

 

OK, lacks some basic skills and ball control, but by God does he want to get stuck in and give everything for the team. Can't fault his motivation and work rate. He's doing a job, and at the moment he's doing it pretty well.

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Bit of a cult hero about him, which usually means they're s****, but he's in there to do a specialist job. Our league isn't that sophisticated and the importance of a big defensive grock should never be underestimated.

 

We've been spoilt with great centrebacks over the years, so it is disapointing to see the defence in s**** state.

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