It's been discussed before, but there's confusion about the copyrights to the Liver bird, whilst Parry has recently insisted that the badge will not change due to the clubs commitment to support HJC. The thing is, nobody wants to lose the eternal flame. It should be there no question. What we don't need is all the other fancy stuff, including the Shankly Gates. FFS, we've got the real gates at the ground!!! I honestly believe that with the right campaign we could get the badge changed, whilst still incorporating the eternal flame. A fan recently produced an excellent version as part of a 'new liverpool kit design' session on RAWK I believe. It was the perfect badge which I have a pictuer of but don't now how to post without it being a link to a website. Many clubs are changing their badges back to the original. Spurs are just about to have the Phoenix on its own again. I don't buy this copyright nonsense with the Liver bird. Others have symbols that aren't their own, so to speak.