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Apart from when they are actually played

Thats fine apart from how the league then decide who gets what for finishing between 4-7 because if you are saying 4th place isn't decided by actual league placing but by winning the play off, then who gets 5th 6th and 7th? Who get into the Europa cup, who doesn't, do the rules change if an English team wins the CL but finishes outside of the top4. If this happens when are the play off actually played because no point going ahead with them if they aren't actually going to result in qualification for the CL. The last date for entry for this years CL was something like a week after last years final, so as the final game of last season was the 24th May, it means 2 sets of 2 legs would have to be played along with a final in 10 days, try and get the tickets sold for those in that time with police clearance. I'm not asking you for the answers but it just throws up some of the questions and complications if the Premier League tried to go ahead with this ridiculous idea.

Are you sure its still the case as I thought when is was muted about the FA cup winners getting the place, it was said it couldn't be as it had to be done on league place. Looking at the The Uefa regs article 2.02 definitely states its based on league position.

I'm not actually sure the FA or Premier league can just do this anyway. The rules for entry state those who are allowed 4 entrants into the Champions League are those who finish 1st,2nd 3rd and 4th or if the team that won the CL is from the same country then the team finishing 4th is dropped into the Europa. So I'm not sure they can just say ok we will have a play off. Unless they are going to say the final places aren't sorted until after the playoffs which leads to all kind of complications, such as the money the club receives for finishing in each position. Still a daft idea anyway.

Sorry Ant I think it is that clear cut, he has shown over the last 2 to 3 seasons he doesn't want to fight for his place and that he has a god given right to be in the starting line up. Well he hasn't and should show some fight and committment, maybe then people can start to say he deserves a run of games, because until then he deserves nothing. Funnily enough when I have spoken to fans of other teams, not one of them has said anything about wanting Babel or said anything complimentary about him when, on the odd occasion his name has come up in conversation.

He has hardly played enough with either two to assume that this will work, plus I wouldn't drop Kuyt. With regard to Yossi, although I think he is a better player than Riera when on top form, I think we have a better shape and balance with Riera in the side. Not sure how you accomodate both unless yossi plays off the forward, or Kuyt goes up top and Yossi goes to the right. May have just ansered myself there doh!,

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Dont believe that will stop him giving 100% and no-one can sanely suggest otherwise.

Its barmy and anyone who thinks its a good idea is also barmy.

Since when has Babel become the answer? He has a terrible attitude and for people to suggest he should get a run of games is absolute madness. He has had plenty of chances and consistently failed to deliver.

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But thats not really the case because he is playing now and again or isn't that allowed to be taken in account?

This thread is becoming hilarious, lets face it very few successful sides in recent yearsplay a strict 4-4-2 or really ever have. The success comes from the flexibility and movement between the players, which to be fair has always been the case but some will claim, incorrectly otherwise.

Or a reminder of the fact he is only worth about 4 minutes of highlights, with the rest of his career being wasted due to his piss poor attitude.

Since when has Babel earned his place in that team? I'd have Gerrard next to Masch, Aqualini just behind Kuyt and Maxi instead of the waste of space that is Babel.

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Pathetic

He hit one good shot and apart from that did his normal flatter to decieve role, he has and never will deliver a consistent top level performance in the the premier league. Anyone who thinks he will is quite frankly deluding themselves.

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I think against Arsenal we need to stop their midfield playing and hit them on the break. I think the mancs game plan was spot on the other week, if you open up against them they will make full use of the space they get and will hurt us. I'd have pretty much the line up from yesterday and get in their faces don't give them room to play.

Aaaarrgghh you c*** ferguson, you lying t***.

I disagree and think SOS should be driving the anti G+H message home loud and clear. This is not the time to back off but too drive the message home, investors wont be put off by it. Major opportunity lost, drive the message home, if he does turn up then you will look a bit niave, think SOS have done good work but should drive home the message.

No, its the off hand way he seems to have responded. You clearly are a big fan of his, dont get it myself but each to their own i suppose, he's still a t*** though.