Paddy 66

If they were doing to this club what those two are, then I would half expect it, unpleasant as it would be. Sorry but I wont shed a tear if G&H keeled over tomorrow, in fact the club would be in a better psoition, which would make me a happy man.

Very poorly worded thread title, you've left yourself wide open for a bit of stick. I Kind of understand your sentiment as somebody who wants Rafa to stay, but you can't accuse people who don't of not loving the club. I know for a fact the likes of Kev, Ant, Wayne etc love the club, so I have to believe those I haven't met who want Rafa out feel the same towards the club. Feel free to tell them they are wrong about wanting Rafa gone, cos I think they are, but recognise as well how much they feel for the club.

Is it f***, man up ffs

I hope not, just dont believe they would make it work much, if any better.

Sorry but if they both died while sitting in the main stand i wouldn't shed a tear, pair of c***s. Probably raise the biggest cheer of the particular match it happened at.

Kyrgiakos Gerrard Masch

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Yet remarkably his view is still better than yours, because all you will ever see in the mirror is a manc supporting c***.

I hope the crowd tomorrow get right behind him and the team. As we as fans normally do.

But nowhere in the same league and no comparison can or should be made its an insult to Shankly.

I dont think thats true at all, just a bit of a wild assumption.

Wayne, I can see why people would and part of me says it could work but its been proved so many times dont go back. I'd hate to see him fail and his memory be tarnished.

As you are advocating going for an interim manager, who?

Is that if the likes of Torres, Gerrard, johnson, Yossi and others suffer the same injuries and time out we have seen this year. Or is it if they were all fit and only missed the odd game. If its the former you deluding yourself. If its the other, who knows if we would under Rafa. Before you start about dont blame the injuries, I'm not we should have done better than we have injuries or no injuries.

I cant for a second think he was happy for a draw, but only Rafa could explain why he didn't bring Aquilani or Babel or both, it had me baffled as well.

I hope they're not true as I'd be gutted if Rafa left.

What? not at all, just an opinion. Pity you couldn't respond without a dig.

I think the time has come to stop pussyfooting about and for SOS or whoever to stop talking to the owners representatives with a parting shot of we are going to do what it takes to make their lives as owners as unbearable as possible. That will take direct action the type of which was mentioned by NYR? earlier in this thread, time for fans to wake up and realise these two muppets are killing our club and we are the only ones who stand a chance of stopping them. If fans dont want to boycott games or merchandise because they want to support the team, fine but dont come moaning about what the owners are doing.

If we are winning 3-0 he doesn't look bothered, your comment doesn't prove anything either way, if you are trying to use that as a stick to beat him with then its a cheap shot and wrong.

Ferdinand has got a four match ban

I'm sorry mate, but your arguments since you started with the ludicrous Capello/Mclaren comparison have made no sense at all. How did losing a pen shoot against Argentina, when England were down to 10 men be a result of him having lost the respect of the players or p****d too many of them off. In fact the committment shown by the 10 players left would suggest the exact opposite. He lost his job largely because of the disabled people paying for bad deeds in a previous life comments plus the involvement of Eileen Drewery and the uproar and embarrassment this caused to the FA.

True but you dont get much of a striker for nowt these days.

I believe Rafa has to take a lot of the blame for last nights result and very poor performance, simply because I think he should have started with the same 11 that started against Spurs. My reasoning is that after the effort and performance they put in merited them keepring their place, I know there will be arguments about the abilities of individual player, however I really believe it would have been a phsycological boost for the squad if Rafa had stuck with them. In addtition to this I am a great beleiver in continuity of selection, especially if the team has played well. I think picking Gerrard was a huge mistake given the reasons above and the opportunity for him to have made an impact, if required, was lost. He clearly wasn't match fit and I think if things had been going poorly, he would have had a bigger impact coming off the bench against players with tiring legs, not too mention the negative impact it would have had on the Wolves players seeing him coming on. This isn't a dig at Gerrard becuase I think he is one of the greatest players in the world and if he had been coming back from a suspension rather than an injury and was match fit or nearly match fit then I would have wanted him to have come straight back into the side. Unfortunately he wasn't and I think, given our performance against Spurs, Rafa missed a massive opportunity to help ease him back in and get back to fitness.

He should have told the manager he wasn't ready, he was woeful tonight and if he is that unfit shouldn't play. As unfit as he blatantly is he needs to put his ego to one side and accept until he gets match fit we are a better side, or at least more fired up under Carra.

You are so predictable in your comments you t***