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Man Utd's Ashley Young is no diver - PFA's Clarke Carlisle

By Alistair Magowan

 

BBC Sport Professional Footballers' Association chairman Clarke Carlisle does not believe Ashley Young is a diver but says players need to be more honest.

 

Manchester United winger Young has been criticised for going down too easily against Aston Villa and QPR, earning penalties on both occasions.

 

But Carlisle, who was Young's team-mate at Watford, said: "I wouldn't say he is or has been prone to falling over.

 

"He is quick and slight so it doesn't take much contact to make him go over."

 

Carlisle did not see the latest incident at Old Trafford on Sunday, where Young fell despite minimal contact from Villa defender Ciaran Clark.

 

 

“You feel let down, it's disappointing to see that, especially when there is zero contact”

 

 

The England forward was criticised by Newcastle defender Ryan Taylor on Twitter and even Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson admitted that Young went down "quite easily" to earn the seventh-minute spot-kick in his side's 4-0 victory.

 

The incident came a week after Young drew a penalty from QPR midfielder Shaun Derry when he fell after being pushed in the box.

 

Carlisle added: "The players' responsibilities are to be as honest as they possibly can but they also need protection from the referees to give the free-kicks or penalties when infringements occur."

 

And he believes English football would benefit if retrospective action were taken against "blatant" cases of diving, such as Andy Carroll's fall against Newcastle, although the Liverpool forward was booked by referee Martin Atkinson at the time.

 

In Scotland, Rangers midfielder Sone Aluko received a two-match ban for simulation following a 2-1 win over Dunfermline.

 

Northampton Town defender Carlisle said: "I'd like to see what the outcomes are over the course of the season [and] whether it was considered successful because there are very much grey areas.

 

"Like in the Ashley Young-Shaun Derry incident, there was contact, so it depends what the parameters are.

 

"If you are trying to judge whether there is sufficient contact, that's so hard to tell. Even in slow-motion replays you can't judge whether the contact on Ashley Young was enough to send him over. All you can see is that there was contact.

 

"If it was for blatant cases like [Liverpool's] Andy Carroll against Newcastle, where there was no contact whatsoever and he went down then yes, I think it would be good.

"Anything we can do to stamp diving out the game is progress, but you would have to establish the parameters and the protocol for reporting and investigating.

 

"We want an honest game and we want our players to give a good example to the young guys watching because everything we do on a Saturday is replicated by the kids on a Sunday morning.

 

"We don't want to breed a generation of young players who are actively looking to win free-kicks and penalties by diving."

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EDIT - After post moved to General Football forum

 

I can understand why this was moved to this forum, but my point was about Liverpool, the media and how things are presented.

Once again we are played as the villians and the ****s etc are just "misunderstood"

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What an utter prick. An absolute utter prick. Hundreds of examples of diving this season, and guess what he picks out ? And all that in a defence of Ashely Young, who he says is not a diver !!!!!!!!!

 

I can somewhat understand journalists having an agenda against particular clubs, but this guy is an elected (presumably?) chairman of the f***ing PFA. f***ing prick.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17728281

 

 

Man Utd's Ashley Young is no diver - PFA's Clarke Carlisle

By Alistair Magowan

BBC Sport Professional Footballers' Association chairman Clarke Carlisle does not believe Ashley Young is a diver but says players need to be more honest.

 

Manchester United winger Young has been criticised for going down too easily against Aston Villa and QPR, earning penalties on both occasions.

 

But Carlisle, who was Young's team-mate at Watford, said: "I wouldn't say he is or has been prone to falling over.

 

"He is quick and slight so it doesn't take much contact to make him go over."

 

Carlisle did not see the latest incident at Old Trafford on Sunday, where Young fell despite minimal contact from Villa defender Ciaran Clark.

 

 

“You feel let down, it's disappointing to see that, especially when there is zero contact

 

Clarke Carlisle on Andy Carroll's fall against Newcastle

 

The England forward was criticised by Newcastle defender Ryan Taylor on Twitter and even Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson admitted that Young went down "quite easily" to earn the seventh-minute spot-kick in his side's 4-0 victory.

 

The incident came a week after Young drew a penalty from QPR midfielder Shaun Derry when he fell after being pushed in the box.

 

Carlisle added: "The players' responsibilities are to be as honest as they possibly can but they also need protection from the referees to give the free-kicks or penalties when infringements occur."

 

And he believes English football would benefit if retrospective action were taken against "blatant" cases of diving, such as Andy Carroll's fall against Newcastle, although the Liverpool forward was booked by referee Martin Atkinson at the time.

 

In Scotland, Rangers midfielder Sone Aluko received a two-match ban for simulation following a 2-1 win over Dunfermline.

 

Northampton Town defender Carlisle said: "I'd like to see what the outcomes are over the course of the season [and] whether it was considered successful because there are very much grey areas.

 

"Like in the Ashley Young-Shaun Derry incident, there was contact, so it depends what the parameters are.

 

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Young went down quite easily - Ferguson

"If you are trying to judge whether there is sufficient contact, that's so hard to tell. Even in slow-motion replays you can't judge whether the contact on Ashley Young was enough to send him over. All you can see is that there was contact.

"If it was for blatant cases like [Liverpool's] Andy Carroll against Newcastle, where there was no contact whatsoever and he went down then yes, I think it would be good.

"Anything we can do to stamp diving out the game is progress, but you would have to establish the parameters and the protocol for reporting and investigating.

 

"We want an honest game and we want our players to give a good example to the young guys watching because everything we do on a Saturday is replicated by the kids on a Sunday morning.

 

"We don't want to breed a generation of young players who are actively looking to win free-kicks and penalties by diving."

 

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Wouldn't be because Young is black by any chance would it? I await his 'Luis Suarez' is not a diver the next time he's accused despite there being no 'contact', given he's the head of an organsiation who are supposed to look after its members and all that.

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We should be all over that, but probably won't. Their treatment of our players, their members has been appalling this season. They can f*** the f*** off

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Young's his mate - doesn't want to slag him off, fair enough - he's still a cheat

 

Carroll's dive was ridiculous

 

don't see the problem

 

I see a big problem. Why pick 1 dive, when we've seen so many this season ? Why did he not make his point without singling out 1 player (which, ironically, was one of the few where the ref dealt properly with it - others have got away with it).

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Young's his mate - doesn't want to slag him off, fair enough - he's still a cheat

 

 

Carroll's dive was ridiculous

 

 

 

don't see the problem

 

 

Seconded, it's fairly obvious. Being able to string a sentence out doesn't make somebody immune to a little bias

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I see a big problem. Why pick 1 dive, when we've seen so many this season ? Why did he not make his point without singling out 1 player (which, ironically, was one of the few where the ref dealt properly with it - others have got away with it).

 

 

it's the most blatant dive i've seen this season, it was recent, it was on telly - really isn't a big deal.

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He's abusing his position if he's able to defend his mate for blatant cheating while having a go at others isn't he?

 

 

 

just undermines him as far as i'm concerned - he didn't see Young's latest effort? well, perhaps he should go and have a look.

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He's abusing his position if he's able to defend his mate for blatant cheating while having a go at others isn't he?

 

He did my head in over the Suarez thing too.

 

He's just showing how bad he is at his position, but it's up to footballers to decide who fronts them

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