where do the media stand?

[growler]

gnerally I see the guardian, Sky, ITV and the mail as showing manc tendancies, whilst the BBC, setanta and the times leaning towards us.

 

What about specific writers or pundits?

[Hassony]

Setanta? are you sure?

[Paul]

The only pundits I can think of that favour us are ex Reds.

 

As for journalists, Henry Winter and Oliver Kay seem to like us

Edited May 25, 2009 by Paul

[BDB]

Pat Dolan on Setanta seems to have a lot of time for us.

[Reggie]

Pat Dolan on Setanta seems to have a lot of time for us.

 

Pat is alright but that Paul Dempsey hates Rafa for some reason. All the boys on RTE cant stand him. In Oz now and Robbie Slater is a big fan on Fox Sports.

[Maldini]

Dempsey is a knob of the highest order.

[fyds]

George Burley is particularly bad on Setanta - I think Fowler must have shat in his trifle once or something.

 

I do notice a gradual change in some of the journos and pundits - solely I suspect as they cannot dissmiss us out of hand anymore and don't want to look stupid down the line. This change does have the texture and feel of being somewhat grudging though.

[patsy]

we have Carlton Palmer (who the f**k is he??????????????) and he said last night Liverpool will never sustain a challenge under Rafa cause he's just not good enough.

[SteveT]

we have Carlton Palmer (who the f**k is he??????????????) and he said last night Liverpool will never sustain a challenge under Rafa cause he's just not good enough.

 

When it comes to being "not good enough", no-one was better at that than Carlton Palmer

[Stevie H]

we have Carlton Palmer (who the f**k is he??????????????) and he said last night Liverpool will never sustain a challenge under Rafa cause he's just not good enough.

carlton palmer! christ i thought steve mcmahon was bad.

[growler]

collymore seems anti us initially, but then it becomes clear that he is just a t*** who actually knows very little about the game.

[patsy]

carlton palmer! christ i thought steve mcmahon was bad.

 

yep! i end up wanting to throw things at the tv after every game! but have to live through his comments if i want to get the highlights!

 

that said don't you guys have sheby singh on espn?

[Stevie H]

yep! i end up wanting to throw things at the tv after every game! but have to live through his comments if i want to get the highlights!

 

that said don't you guys have sheby singh on espn?

yeah, and there's definitely an undercurrent to the way mcmahon sneers at sheby singh, like he can't know anything about football because he's asian. unlike self-titled 'big mac' who spent all of last season saying that torres would have scored loads more goals if only benitez hadn't kept rotating him.

[patsy]

yeah, and there's definitely an undercurrent to the way mcmahon sneers at sheby singh, like he can't know anything about football because he's asian. unlike self-titled 'big mac' who spent all of last season saying that torres would have scored loads more goals if only benitez hadn't kept rotating him.

 

 

Stevie, Sheby Singh doesn't know anything about football! But yeah, Mcmahon does appear prejudiced.... and tries so hard to seem to like Liverpool but his true colours show all the time...

 

still so much better the the crap we get with some geordie (haha) and carlton palmer...

[Stevie H]

Stevie, Sheby Singh doesn't know anything about football! But yeah, Mcmahon does appear prejudiced.... and tries so hard to seem to like Liverpool but his true colours show all the time...

 

still so much better the the crap we get with some geordie (haha) and carlton palmer...

oh aye, he's a wally though. he's not offensive like mcmahon is. or that australian gobsh*te, PJ someone or other.

[carrafan]

we have Carlton Palmer (who the f**k is he??????????????) and he said last night Liverpool will never sustain a challenge under Rafa cause he's just not good enough.

 

He's a regular for Ten Sports during their Champions League coverage and he says this EVERY single time.

[psl]

Jamie Redknapp is pro Liverpool (despite what people say) and I think that Dion Fanning might have a soft spot for Rafa.

Edited May 25, 2009 by psl

[Kahnee]

we have Carlton Palmer (who the f**k is he??????????????)

 

:lol:

[Snookie]

Pat is alright but that Paul Dempsey hates Rafa for some reason. All the boys on RTE cant stand him.

 

That is not quite true. Souness has an awful lot time for him and Giles, while he can be critical, rates him highly. He has regularly described him as a proper football man, which for him, his the highest praise.

 

Houghton, yes. is very critical but the man is a bunch of neuroses hiding inside a mind comsumed with a sense of dystopic failure while Whelan is an obvious idiot. He regurgitates a 'tabloid for the slow learner' view of football because that is all he is capable of doing. And Trevor Steven is like his balder, slightly more articulate b*****d brother. Dunphy is a caricature who confuses incoherent ramblings shouted in an ever louder voice as analysis.

[Snookie]

Dempsey is a knob of the highest order.

 

That's being too kind. When you get passed over by Richard Keys for the job you want that says something about your abilities.

[McBain]

The only pundits I can think of that favour us are ex Reds.

 

We seem to have more gobshyte ex reds in the media than anyone though

 

McMahon, Whelan and Houghton in particular are all ultrac*nts

[Andy @ Allerton]

All the tabloid media is pro Manchester United - but they work on the basis of get behind the most popular thing (Whatever that is) as much as you can because that sells papers.

 

The broadsheets do just what their editors tell them to do.

[Dan]

Oliver Holt likes Rafa

[Ste M]

The only newspaper that seems to 'lean' towards us is the Mirror, the rest are generally just bandwagon jumpers. It's interesting to see the names that people put forward as 'liking us' or 'liking Rafa', because I generally rate those as the best journalists in football, and are simply just balanced, fair and unbiased.

 

Someone mentioned Oliver Holt - did you know he's a Manc? He'll tell you he's a Stockport fan, but he's been taking his kids to OT for years and years. He's a cracking journo though because he reports fairly, and is intelligent. Same for Winter, Kay, and even (even!) Martin Samuel, who since his move to the Mail (of all places) has turned into a very good columnist.

[Andy @ Allerton]

The only newspaper that seems to 'lean' towards us is the Mirror, the rest are generally just bandwagon jumpers. It's interesting to see the names that people put forward as 'liking us' or 'liking Rafa', because I generally rate those as the best journalists in football, and are simply just balanced, fair and unbiased.

 

Someone mentioned Oliver Holt - did you know he's a Manc? He'll tell you he's a Stockport fan, but he's been taking his kids to OT for years and years. He's a cracking journo though because he reports fairly, and is intelligent. Same for Winter, Kay, and even (even!) Martin Samuel, who since his move to the Mail (of all places) has turned into a very good columnist.

 

 

Of all the papers that you could bring up as 'leaning towards' Liverpool - the Mirror would be the very last one.

 

The Mirror or the Daily Manc is so pro-Manchester United (due to its roots) that it would be hard to find one more so.

 

The very few times I've (against my better judgement) read it - I've always regretted doing so.

 

This is the same paper that one year when we won the title used the back two pages to print a major story on Manchester United reserves - you had to look three pages in for a begrudging mention of us winning 'yet another title'.