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...we don't half do some damage to them don't we? Knocked them out of the Champions League and FA Cup and now put their title hopes on serious jeapordy.

 

We've got to do United at Anfield now though to make up for the favour we did them today.

Posted

when we beat them in the CL..we went on to win the CL.

ditto FA Cup

ditto Community Shield

and now we've beaten them in the league.....

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Posted

Stranger things have happened,as kenny said yesterday the title is still within reach.

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Stranger things have happened,as kenny said yesterday the title is still within reach.

 

Optimism is a good thing, but I can't see it, not this season. United are too far ahead, and not dropping many points.

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We've also put José in his box yesterday. The beginning of his end at Chelsea.

 

http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/sto...;issue_id=15151

 

Not so special Mourinho finished

 

DION FANNING

 

THE Jose Mourinho era ended at Anfield yesterday afternoon with a display which suggested that Roman Abramovich not only signs the players at Stamford Bridge these days, but sets the tactics as well.

 

Chelsea will point to the absence of John Terry, Claude Makelele and Ricardo Carvalho as the reasons for their defeat. But this was a display which suggests the problems go far deeper than the absence of key players. Liverpool at last performed as they should in a Premiership match against the top two, bringing desire and application, two qualities almost wholly absent in the champions.

 

Chelsea are in revolt, the dressing room factionalised, the owner now bored by his manager (Abramovich did not make it to Anfield yesterday) with the vacuum filled by opportunists, superagents and the odd football man.

 

As a result, Chelsea rediscovered their bleak and unglamorous heritage yesterday, looking like a side managed by John Hollins or David Webb, not Mourinho. They could have done with Mickey Droy, let alone John Terry. Frank Sinclair might even have given Paulo Ferreira a run for his money.

 

Mourinho appears to have lost the will to organise and discipline a squad with players imposed on him from above and his proposed signings vetoed by a committee that has Abramovich's ear.

 

The champions were unprepared yesterday, which made Mourinho's post-match statement that he knew for two weeks that Liverpool would start with Dirk Kuyt and Peter Crouch up front more puzzling. Chelsea seemed startled by the pair and Mourinho's statement could only be read as another swipe in the internal struggle at the club which has led to him being denied a central defender.

 

Mourinho, naturally, focused on the injuries afterwards, and the absence of Carvalho who woke with a temperature yesterday morning was a blow. But with £60 million worth of footballers on the bench - and Michael Ballack earning huge sums for doing very, very little on the pitch - it was hard to feel sympathy.

 

"We have had problems with our team," Benitez rightly pointed out later, "and nobody has said anything about it."

 

But Benitez was rewarded for his refusal to be swayed by the confederacy of dunces which appears allied against him with a performance that was full of killer instinct. He had wanted the first goal and he got it after only three minutes.

 

In their seasons of failure against the big sides, Liverpool have nearly always started brightly before losing heart when they fail to take their chances. Dirk Kuyt's quick thinking and calm finish after Peter Crouch caused problems allowed them, for once, to grow.

 

When Jermaine Pennant scored his first Liverpool goal with less than 20 minutes gone, Liverpool experienced a sensation which came close to self-belief.

 

Mourinho's appears to be gone. Before the match he said he wanted the gap with Manchester United to remain at six points and he may get his wish if Arsenal perform this afternoon as they did at Old Trafford in September.

 

But it was an uncharacteristically tame statement from a manager who has often led his team with bravado that borders on bulls***. Now, as he fights a propaganda war, not with Alex Ferguson but with his own boardroom, the message is relentlessly defeatist. The mind games are in-house.

 

Ferguson may play a few of his own if United win today, but Arsene Wenger has not conceded the title and will believe that if Chelsea can be caught then United may crumble too.

 

Benitez, too, has hope again, although it was those who view the Carling Cup as a benchmark for the season, not he, who despaired for Liverpool. With players like Steve Finnan, outstanding again yesterday, and Jamie Carragher, he has the right to be upbeat.

 

"We deserved to win. Playing as we did today, we can beat anyone. We were thinking about winning the game and we were eight points behind Chelsea and working to be closer."

 

Benitez may feel he can hunt down a side which lost yesterday for the first time since the beginning of November but which has taken only six points from their last five games.

 

Ferguson may be even more encouraged. He may insist that even Liverpool fans want United to win the league this season, but his greatest rivals may not have reached that point of concession just yet.

 

Chelsea's manager appears vanquished, worn down by a battle he cannot win against forces more powerful than even his ego. The magic is gone, probably irretrievably.

 

Jose Mourinho and Chelsea parted company yesterday. A formal announcement is expected some time in the summer.

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Love this quote..

 

"Benitez was rewarded for his refusal to be swayed by the confederacy of dunces which appears allied against him"

 

Sums up what we've been up against all season with Sky, the Beeb, Fleet St.. et al.

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Jose Mourinho and Chelsea parted company yesterday. A formal announcement is expected some time in the summer.

 

That's a good closing line from Fanning. Yesterday as the Kop chanted 'Bye Bye Mourhinho' it did feel as if his time at Chelsea was drawing to an end. The machine he created didn't function at all yesterday, seems like the cogs have broken.

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That's a good closing line from Fanning. Yesterday as the Kop chanted 'Bye Bye Mourhinho' it did feel as if his time at Chelsea was drawing to an end. The machine he created didn't function at all yesterday, seems like the cogs have broken.

 

If the mancs lose then chelsea are still only 6 points off with united still to goto stamford bridge and come to us aswell. If arsenal win today then it's still up for grabs.

 

But you're right in that chelsea looked weaker than they have at any point under Mourinho and are currently there for the taking.

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when we beat them in the CL..we went on to win the CL.

ditto FA Cup

ditto Community Shield

and now we've beaten them in the league.....

 

I like the cut of your jib. The turning point of the season? Hmmm...

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It's on though. It's on.

 

 

 

its on alright.

 

only problem is that even we have a great run to the end of the season we are still relying on other teams to screw up..

 

and I don;t like that.

 

 

 

however we are doing a better job of taking points off the top teams this seaosn. not that it was difficult to improve.

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its on alright.

 

only problem is that even we have a great run to the end of the season we are still relying on other teams to screw up..

 

and I don;t like that.

however we are doing a better job of taking points off the top teams this seaosn. not that it was difficult to improve.

Nature of every championship, especially a campaign waged up a hill. But it's on. You know it's on, I know it's on and don't let anybody tell you otherwise. We're within eight by the time they turn up at Anfield and it isn't just on. It's f***ing on.

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Other than the Carling Cup final and Gerrards oggie, when was the last time one of LFC or Chelsea came from behind to beat the other

 

Or the Mancs/LFC for that matter.

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Other than the Carling Cup final and Gerrards oggie, when was the last time one of LFC or Chelsea came from behind to beat the other

 

Or the Mancs/LFC for that matter.

 

One of the commentators mentioned that ~ how important the first goal is. Arsenal vs Man Utd was the 32nd 'top 4' meeting since Mourinho and Benitez arrived and a team has only come from behind to win twice. He didn't mention which two games it was though...I'm assuming the Carling Cup is one of them..

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Only two things disappointed me about Saturday.

 

(a) If only Riise had scored with that punt from near the halfway line.

(b) Seeing a close up of that smug w*nk*r Abramovich's knobby face sitting in the crowd.

 

Oh, hang on, must go, the doorbell's just rang...

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