Billy Dane

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Same ref we had against West ham. Always keen to play the advantage and avoid yellow cards when possible. Quite like that but Palace had a case when he booked Ward for virtually the same challenge that Kante got away with. Redeemed himself by booking Costa though.

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The hallway of hesitation

I think he is the player that has transformed the most under Klopp. He's really blossomed this season and I think you can make an argument that he is at least as important to the side as Coutinho, if not more so. Never thought I'd say that when Brendan was manager.

I know a fast start is a good thing, but we could at least leave the moaning until we've kicked off?

Ha ha

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So Newcastle had to spend the 2nd half with only 9 men due to poor decisions from the ref? Hope for his sake they don't come to rue dropping the three points come the end of the season.

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We've already got an old head in Manninger on the books

2H = second half?

I thought he was great in the first half, the whole team switched off in the last 15 minutes

Think it was the team mentality that ultimately cost us today. We thought we had the game won at 2-0, conceded the first, regained control but couldn't stop the tide when they scored again. we can point the finger at various players for their part in the downfall, but collectively the team lost the plot. This is what Jurgen needs to work on and has been evident since the Europa League final last season. We are better than last year with this, but we've had a few glimpses that that soft underbelly is still there.

Top 4? Hadn't even entered my head that we still had that as a target.

I'm disappointed you post on here.

What "again"?

Karius still to impress since his arrival, but he was the 2nd highest rated keeper in Germany last season. How many keepers do we need to sign before Achterburg moves them up a notch?

Ha ha you are such a gobs***e