Disgusted

[Guest Themba]

Just like to say I'm disgusted at the amount of booing I've heard at Anfield. Marsaille , birmingham and Wigan. Granted they were poor even shocking results but what kind of c**** go the match and boo your team? We're not Newcastle.

 

I don't want to come of as a stupid superfan but thats not acceptable. My dad always told me to sing when you're winning but sing twice as loud when they're losing. We did not lose backing the team is essential. Does anyone think the s**** atmosphere and constant groans are the reason the players have been doing so badly in games at Anfield? Maybe theres a phobia because the second the do something wrong theres instant moans.

[fyds]

Before you get shouted down, I for one agree with you.

 

We're rather unlikely to win the league now, granted, although we're not all THAT far behind and the ANC and injuries to come - well, stranger things etc, but - few of us realistically expected to win it this year anyway, just to be closer - and before we get 'we're only four points better off than we were last year', a) the season is only halfway through and a quick check of last years tables tells you not everyone else is doing as good at the mid point.

 

We still have the best away record in the league and have lost once at home - but have drawn a few too many we should have won.

 

A few weeks back, certain people were having a pop at me because I was less then totally condemnatory about the new owners - 'what if they sack Rafa - we have to get out and save him from these clowns!' - now some of those same people are wanting him gone themselves - you can't have it every which way.

 

It's not being a superfan or blind to rein in the hysteria and try and be more objective from time to time.

[Guz]

I'm not really gonna have a go at anyone for voicing their displeasure after paying £30 to watch us drop more points. Nor do I think the anger and frustration is out of place either. I think there's been a lot of conservative and reasoned debate about the current state of play recently and I think everyone is frustrated and pulling their hair out. But it's a bit weird that we boo the team (the manager?) off just a month after there was such incredible uproar throughout the fanbase about the treatment of the manager by our new owners. Maybe it was the circumstances of the perceived treatment rather than the fanbase in general actually still having total faith in Rafa?

[Lanus]

Just like to say I'm disgusted at the amount of booing I've heard at Anfield. Marsaille , birmingham and Wigan. Granted they were poor even shocking results but what kind of c**** go the match and boo your team? We're not Newcastle.

 

I don't want to come of as a stupid superfan but thats not acceptable. My dad always told me to sing when you're winning but sing twice as loud when they're losing. We did not lose backing the team is essential. Does anyone think the s**** atmosphere and constant groans are the reason the players have been doing so badly in games at Anfield? Maybe theres a phobia because the second the do something wrong theres instant moans.

 

you're dad was exactly right though and it's what sets us apart from the likes of newcastle who will never be a force and it's because of their impatient board and fans. we need to get behind the team and give them unconditional support.

[ricflairandy]

you're dad was exactly right though and it's what sets us apart from the likes of newcastle who will never be a force and it's because of their impatient board and fans. we need to get behind the team and give them unconditional support.

 

 

 

Used to, unfortunatly we are no different from newcastle these days, just like united, chelsea arsenal etc. All the same. Wenger was bood alot last year and had his head called for, fergie the year before.

[TheLa]

I'm not really gonna have a go at anyone for voicing their displeasure after paying £30 to watch us drop more points. Nor do I think the anger and frustration is out of place either.

 

But you don't go the match to vent your anger and frustration on the team, you go the match as a supporter. Piss and moan all you want in the boozer afterwards, in fact piss and moan all you want at the match but booing the team and/or the manager is not suppporting your team. It can have a detrimental effect on the players and staff. Look at Newcastle for example, their fans boo if they're not 12-0 up at half time, it puts more pressure on the players and the manager and it achieves nothing.

 

And you don't pay thirty quid to go and see your team win, you pay thirty quid to go and support your team, win, lose or draw. It's the whole point in going the game, surely. If you were only paying to see your team win, then what's the point in supporting f***ing Tranmere or Torquay or Leyton Orient?

 

Obviously some g******* or other is probably going whinge on about Superfan's or some such s**** but it's got f*** all to do with that, we're supporters we should support the team. If you're that pissed off with the performance, send your ticket stub back and attach a nasty letter; "Dear Mr Benítez, I am writing with regards to the Wigan game at Anfield on Wednesday, 2nd January 2008. I was not fully entertained at the game I attended that night and was bitterly disappointed that we could only manage a draw. I would like a full refund of the thirty nicker I paid for me ticket, Yours faithfully Mr. B Ooer P.S Sell that ginger c*** Riise."

 

Where do you draw the line with booing, as well? You can boo all you want if we don't win or is it only okay to boo if the other team aren't in the top half of the league? What if we're three nil down at half time, can we boo then? Or is it wrong to boo at half time but alright at full time? Or is it completely down to performance? If we don't perform, we can boo? What if we're s*** and win 3-0, do we still boo?

 

Maybe it can be justified in extreme circumstances, but booing because we drew at home? It's complete f***ing nonsense, I just don't understand what people who boo think it will achieve, other than making them look a right nobhead.

[Will]

And you don't pay thirty quid to go and see your team win, you pay thirty quid to go and support your team, win, lose or draw.

Nail. Head. Firmly hit.

[Gunga Din]

i would've boo'ed, but i left before the end

[Spike]

Aye it's that never say die, f*** it, spirit amongst the crowd that, to me, made Istanbul, Arsenal in 05, Olympiakos, Barca to name a few as memorable as the matches. Oddly enough we won all these in the end.

 

Edit: and now folk seem to want to go to experience such highs but without contributing anything themselves.

Edited January 4, 2008 by Spike

[Rich Gobey]

Aye it's that never say die, f*** it, spirit amongst the crowd that, to me, made Istanbul, Arsenal in 05, Olympiakos, Barca to name a few as memorable as the matches. Oddly enough we won all these in the end.

 

It takes a bit of guts and bottle to do it - something thats lacking on here at the moment.

 

The manager is being attacked from all sides at the moment, the media, other fans, our own fans.

 

My gut reaction is to defend and support him, I don't know if he'll succeed, nor does anyone, but turning on him does none of us any favours and makes us look small time.

[Guest Taxman]

Frustrating night all round, out of another title race, and the fans frustrations finally boiled over. Can't blame them.

[Spike]

It takes a bit of guts and bottle to do it - something thats lacking on here at the moment.

 

The manager is being attacked from all sides at the moment, the media, other fans, our own fans.

 

My gut reaction is to defend and support him, I don't know if he'll succeed, nor does anyone, but turning on him does none of us any favours and makes us look small time.

 

 

Well, in retrospect people talked about those matches and the fan's belief.

 

The difference is that belief has now changed to expectation.

 

Quite simply our demands have exceeded the club's ability to supply, using Hodgson's model of Net spend in the context of the new TV deal, and increases in the investment levels of our competitors who aren't focusing on as many product ranges /markets or tournaments if you will.

 

We've moved forward in terms of where we were 4 years ago but so have the others. To that end, far from being a rapidly improved business we've simply returned to the status quo. Voronin is symbolic of that problem in every concievable way.

[Molby]

I think it's f***ing disgusting - just makes me more depressed than I already am

 

I never even got on the backs of Ruddock, Dicks etc, let alone boo them..and they werent even looking after themselves

 

only justification for booing would be if the team were obviously not bothering to try hard and even then I couldn't stand the shame of being seen booing

[Kahnee]

And you don't pay thirty quid to go and see your team win

 

Not at the moment, anyway...

[Rich Gobey]

Well, in retrospect people talked about those matches and the fan's belief.

 

The difference is that belief has now changed to expectation.

 

Quite simply our demands have exceeded the club's ability to supply, using Hodgson's model of Net spend in the context of the new TV deal, and increases in the investment levels of our competitors who aren't focusing on as many product ranges /markets or tournaments if you will.

 

We've moved forward in terms of where we were 4 years ago but so have the others. To that end, far from being a rapidly improved business we've simply returned to the status quo. Voronin is symbolic of that problem in every concievable way.

 

I didnt believe we could get back from 3-0 against Milan, and I absolutely do not believe that anyone in the heart of hearts did. But I never gave up.

[RP]

Frustrating night all round, out of another title race, and the fans frustrations finally boiled over. Can't blame them.

 

 

I can.

 

Fans booing our team can all f*** off.

[sean]

I can.

 

Fans booing our team can all f*** off.

 

 

 

Taking my 4 year old to his first Liverpool game against the Villa in a couple of weeks. I'll be sick if he gets to hear this kind of s****. It isn't, nor should it ever be, part and parcel of supporting your team.

[jimmylibel]

Used to, unfortunatly we are no different from newcastle these days, just like united, chelsea arsenal etc. All the same. Wenger was bood alot last year and had his head called for, fergie the year before.

 

So what you're saying is title challenge next season!

[johngibo YPC]

I think it's f***ing disgusting - just makes me more depressed than I already am

 

I never even got on the backs of Ruddock, Dicks etc, let alone boo them..and they werent even looking after themselves

 

only justification for booing would be if the team were obviously not bothering to try hard and even then I couldn't stand the shame of being seen booing

 

agreed

[ricflairandy]

Its time poeple faced up to the sad fact that football has changed so much and these days half our s***bag fans are just the same as newcastle, villa , spurs, etc. All bloody moaners who are happy to boo the team and make a show of our support. Add to that that we have 2 crackpot american owners who havent actually spent any of their own money and you see that infact what was once special about our club and us is slowly dwindling away into nothing.

[Guest Taxman]

I can.

 

Fans booing our team can all f*** off.

 

I wouldn't have done it, but I'm not going to condemn those that did. It's difficult to play the loyal, noble fan when you see such an abject performance and yet another false dawn.

 

It's hardly a regular occurence with us is it? And we've had more excuse than most over the years to abuse the team and manager.

Edited January 4, 2008 by Taxman

[sean]

I wouldn't have done it, but I'm not going to condemn those that did. It's difficult to play the loyal, noble fan when you see such an abject performance and yet another false dawn.

 

 

So booing helps who? You? The team? The manager? I'm quite sure they're aware they are under-performing, idiots booing doesn't exactly sharpen the focus.

[Duncan Disorderly]

Taking the thick with the thin ( ) and accepting bad results is what being a fan is all about.

 

You don't boo and you don't leave early. End of!

[RP]

I wouldn't have done it, but I'm not going to condemn those that did. It's difficult to play the loyal, noble fan when you see such an abject performance and yet another false dawn.

 

It's hardly a regular occurence with us is it? And we've had more excuse than most over the years to abuse the team and manager.

 

That's your opinion - great.

 

Bullsh** in my opinion - I guess we'll agree to differ.

 

 

 

And you are wrong, by the way.

[Molby]

And we've had more excuse than most over the years to abuse the team and manager.

 

 

how do you work that out, you nitwit?