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They need to do away with testimonials now.

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ridiculous unless they are 100% charitable affairs.

dorgie i can't believe anyone thinks a first team regular in a blue ribbon premiership team at this moment deserves to make money out of a testimonial.

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They need to do away with testimonials now.

 

To be fair, with the way players move around these days you won't see many.

 

From a financial point of view players these days don't need them, but it is a good chance for us to show our appreciation of one of our own. If he does what Niall Quinn did with his testimonial money then so much the better.

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dorgie i can't believe anyone thinks a first team regular in a blue ribbon premiership team at this moment deserves to make money out of a testimonial.

 

Fair point, but I do think that loyalty is so rare now that it can and should be marked by something like this. If Carra gives a whack of it to charity, then all the better.

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they are not if he gives the money to charidee

 

its recognition

they were established as a means of giving long-serving players a pension, something they don't need any more as a result of the enormous wages they are paid. just seems a bit ridiculous to organise it and then put the onus on the player to give the money away.

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they were established as a means of giving long-serving players a pension, something they don't need any more as a result of the enormous wages they are paid. just seems a bit ridiculous to organise it and then put the onus on the player to give the money away.

 

 

i know why they were created doesnt mean it cant change in it s nature

 

Doesnt bother me in the slightest as long as a charitable cause is the beneficiary

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Not saying he will but if he gives the proceeds to the HJC is the testemonial a waste of time?

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To be fair though, a testimonial might also be regarded as just reward for a player who has foregone the wedge he would have received from a transfer but out of loyalty, has decided not to move on. I agree it is obscene that a player on hundreds of thousands a year gets a "benefit" game but we should look at the whole picture here.

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To be fair though, a testimonial might also be regarded as just reward for a player who has foregone the wedge he would have received from a transfer but out of loyalty, has decided not to move on. I agree it is obscene that a player on hundreds of thousands a year gets a "benefit" game but we should look at the whole picture here.

 

We all know Carragher wouldn't take the money if he did I would be surprised

 

If the Money goes to Charity and we get to congratulate one of our all time greats in the prime of his career, I do not see the problem

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The Echo yesterday reported most of the proceeds would go to Alder Hey. Plus could be part of the opening of the new stadium, but it's too early to confirm anything.

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The Echo yesterday reported most of the proceeds would go to Alder Hey. Plus could be part of the opening of the new stadium, but it's too early to confirm anything.

 

THAT would be a good idea.

 

Great game to start a new stadium with honouring a real Liverpool Legend

 

Plus a lot of money going to a children's hospital, who could argue with that.

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At the risk of turning this political, isn't it the government's job to fund hospitals? Any money going from the public purse absolves the government of its responsibility to do so.

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At the risk of turning this political, isn't it the government's job to fund hospitals? Any money going from the public purse absolves the government of its responsibility to do so.

Completely agree. The fact is that obscenely high-earners, such as footballers, should be subject to higher taxation to pay for hospitals.

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If it is about honouring a player, who has no need for the money, how about making the tickets for it 'cost price'?

If its about raising money for charity, do that, let Carra choose the charity, and call it that.

 

You can't force him to raise money for charity.

 

Personally, I think we need to be a bit better at recognising this. How many players will stay at a club 10 years and longer now? How about naming seating blocks in the stadium after historical players? we should have enough blocks to go round, with enough to spare for new legends?

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ridiculous unless they are 100% charitable affairs.

dorgie i can't believe anyone thinks a first team regular in a blue ribbon premiership team at this moment deserves to make money out of a testimonial.

Is right - maybe he will make a charitable job though, wouldn't be surprised if he did. £1000 should go to the 'for god's sake get John Riise a decent haircut' concern.

 

Such testimonials now were Premiership players keep the wonga vaguely smell of greed and corruption as well as a loss of contact with reality.

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Completely agree. The fact is that obscenely high-earners, such as footballers, should be subject to higher taxation to pay for hospitals.

 

It's not like the two things are mutually exclusive is it? Do both.

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Completely agree. The fact is that obscenely high-earners, such as footballers, should be subject to higher taxation to pay for hospitals.

 

Rubbish. Punish success by taking more money off them?

 

I can't believe that someone thinks giving charity to a hospital is wrong because the Government should do it? What kind of an attitude is that? It's your country aswell so if some multi-millionaire wants to give a wedge to a hospital then it is up to the hospital to ensure that they are not left short by the Government on top of that. There is of course also the arguement that if Alderhey gets £1m, then the £1m that was due for them could go towards other things such as cancer research, etc. I suppose the conspiracy nuts will tell you though that the £1m would just go towards building that time machine that Blair wants so he can save Diana.

 

A PL club can just say to a long term player that they want to show their appreciation for his 10 years of service and think this is a good chance to help a local charity as well. They offer him a testamonial and tell him that the proceeds can then go to whatever is his prefeered charity. Everyone wins. Testamonials are now an even better things at a club like Liverpool as some local needy places are going to reap the rewards of a local hero, while the local hero gets a day of honouring him by the fans and club. No harm can come from that.

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I can't believe that someone thinks giving charity to a hospital is wrong because the Government should do it?

 

 

That's not an argument for this thread but should be discussed elsewhere.

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Rubbish. Punish success by taking more money off them?

Punish success indeed! First of all success and money don't go hand in hand. Secondly rich, successful people would remain rich, successful people even if they did have to pay proportionally more tax than the rest of us.

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