yeah i agree, i was just disagreeing with neil when he said it wasn't necessarily a centre mid issue (paraphrasing), where else on the pitch do you get that? i wrote it thinking he was probably thinking it could be agger-led, if we pinned the opposition back and let the defence start the moves and switch the play a la alonso. This is what united do and why they don't really need to worry about using their midfield when they've got the ball. it is infuriating that without agger our central defence is functional at best.