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It's from page 3 of this thread on RAWK by a superb analytical poster called Jack Slater. The mods on there have locked it for reasons best known to themselves. http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=284771.0

What a feckin masterstroke. If Craig can turn the clock back 18 months - and I'm sure he can - then Mancini will rue the day. Good as City looked against Spurs, when they had Bellamy [alongside Tevez] under Hughes it saw them playing some truly exhilirating football. From the video interview he really sounds as if he's in the zone to recreate that sort of incisive play. Luis, Downing, Stevie and Bellamy. Happy days for us, unhappy days for every other bugger.

ha ha - now that is funny.

Except not quite as gozzie eyed.

Hmmph Almost but not quite fizzled out http://www.timbosliverpool.co.uk/ http://www.youtube.com/user/timbo0151?feature=mhw4#g/u Got to say - I just love Aquilani's style and grace as a footballer. Really hope he can stay. I could watch him all day. I love adam's style too. To read AA being termed garbage just made me feel compelled to respond as it seemed nobody else really had. Not tuned into the vibes with Antynwa so maybe he was on a wind up. Whatever. I love AA.

Antynwa Just had the misfortune to read back over a few of your posts in this thread - with the emphasis on 'few' since reading any more might have triggered adverse mental health ramifications. I'd just like this on the record though as an occasional visitor. The comprehensive lack of insight within your posts into the game so many of us love represents as fine an example as any I've seen - and there's been many - of the bitter price reasonably sane folk are forced to pay for visiting forums affiliated to their team. No offence like son

I don't hear many snippets. But one I have heard from someone who knows Bud Flanagan's dad reckons that some of the younger players have been gasping in awe of Aquilani on the training pitch. And evidently it's nowt to do with the size of his todger.

All were outstanding. As near a complete team effort as it's possible to get. However, one performance was just that bit more crucial than any others and that was the outlet up front. Without that it could have been a different tale. It needed something special and Dirk Kuyt's performance was special. Kuyt Carragher Lucas

A lad off Rawk has come up with Sweet Carroll 9 Oh Oh Oh Scoring never looked so good Goals all the time Oh Oh Oh Just like Kenny said they would Feckin brill So simple but so good

I think the gist is that this latest 20 million on alleged design fees etc may be added to the previous amounts for the same thing. Off the top of my head I'd say it must total around £60 million by now without a solitary cubic metre of concrete poured. If they carry on at this rate they'll have spent enough on prelimnary fees etc to have redesigned the whole of Western europe. Point being that a pound to a pinch of s*** most of the money has not gone to the location in dallas where it's alleged to have gone but has taken a diversion to another location in said city.

Out of his depth? Nah. This past few months Carragher has been as good as he's ever been judged solely on his pure defensive qualities. His anticipation, covering and reading of potential danger is definitely at its peak. His tackling and heading not far off. Where I would agree with you is the frequency of his poor distrbution from the back with both head and feet is a real bane at times. It is certainly well below the quality you'd wish for at the level to which we aspire. I think the absence of an ever ready outlet in Xabi has made his shortcoming in this area more noticeable but at times there is no excuse for the squandering of possession. That said judged overall I think since the turn of the year he's been terrific and a real stalwart often holding us together when we look as though we're ready to collapse at the back. Then again that's his job.

We lost three what I'd term "proper men" from the dressing room this summer - the sort that give the rest of the squad a sense of reassurance as they sit there before kick off glancing round. We've now replaced them with Ben Hur. Can be no bad thing to have a complete and utter Greek nutter psyching everyone up before kick off as he bites the heads of live rats and spits them into Sammy Lee's Tesco bag. Genius Rafa lad. Yeah I know Ben was one of Rafa's lot but the guy does look like Charlton Heston

agreed. But if he was that desperate to make some quick return yet still safeguard the club's future he could have agreed a deal whereby he split his 51% with those two. My point is that once you sell to people who have to borrow at the sort of price we sold then everything gets fecked. You simply cannot have a barely profitable organisation suddenly being landed with such enormous debt and hoping to survive beyond the initial cash injection from the sale. And that is exactly what's happened. The credit crunch has merely speeded the disaster up. Fact is if a club's worth is linked to profit levels then the most the club was worth with borrowed money that needed servicing was around 60 million ie around 5/6 million yearly interest leaving enough over to still run the feckin thing as a profitable concern essentially free of borrowed money.

I feel the same - but with slightly different reasoning. I see the crucial decision in all this not to whom he sold the family silver [though clearly that almost shares equal billing] but rather his decision to sell to anyone who was going to buy the club with borrowed money. For it is the cost of that £200/240 million initial borrowed purchase/debt clearing money and the interest charges on it which have become the dagger piercing the heart of this club. How were we ever going to survive debt of that magnitude when we scarcely ever made a profit each year? Once that decision was taken to sell to ANYBODY who was a leveraged buyer and not forking it out of their own back pocket we were never ever going to be the same again. We were on the slippery slope from that moment. That for the good of the club Moores could not have come to some arrangement with Morgan and the Northern Irish fellow Miskillen? and perhaps others too but chose instead to line his own pockets by selling something that had fallen in his lap because of an accident of birth is the reason for my contempt. And boy is it a deep unshakeable contempt. And as you say ever since that man has had the feckin temerity to continue in prime position his association with club he's shafted as if the entire debacle had nothing whatsoever to do with him. And we - the fans - have allowed him to get away with it. Unbelievable.

Is so so right Leo. How long will it be before this abominable epitome of a silver spooned parasite is hounded out of the institution he has desecrated by his personal greed? Alternatively, could he not become an agent a la the Tevez guy. Purchase two top players with the money he's acquired off our backs and bequeath them to LFC. Then I might be more tolerant of the loathsome moustachioed slug.

Is the correct underpinning synopsis of the entire feckin debacle

Another rare shaft of wisdom. Of course he should be made to stay. But for the entire three years after which he can go crawl to the devil's spawn in Madrid.

I've read and despaired at around a thousand website posts/media drivel on this subject including those of the anti-Rafa glitteratiti on TLW. Yours Leo is a rare shaft of wisdom and refreshing perspective on the situation. Thank you. If the authorities can't deal with the anti-Christ monstrosity that Madrid have become and banish them from the game for the vulgarities they are inflicting upon us all then we as Liverpool Football Club should simply make a public stand and refuse to countenance any dealings with them. It should be a case of tough s*** Xabi - you deal with the devil then you can expect the consequences. Three years in Liverpudlian limbo till you're a free agent and then you can go where the hell you like. We thought you were better than that but I guess we were wrong. Using as a disingenuous shield some pathetic falling out with a manager whose financial restraints had tied his hands seems to accord nicely with the Madrid philosophy. Cvnts.

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That's exactly how I saw it. In this level of fixture the margins are just so finely balanced you simply cannot have someone playing so poorly without it grievously undermining the overall team performance. Against lesser teams or a Chelsea team not fully on blob it can be masked. But most certainly not when your opponents are performing at the very top of their game both individually [all eleven] and collectively. And boy were Chelsea doing that. Especially Essien and Ivonisovich. As it was, given the fact that Lucas can never properly fill Masch's boots in a game of this stature and the fact that Gerrard was so inneffectual for reasons now well documented we actually needed Aurelio to have the game of his life and putting Chelsea's right flank on the back foot. As it was he was a complete mess. Defensively a loose canon and attacking wise non-existent. His jitteryness definitely spread to Jamie and Skrtel as the game wore on. It culminated in that unreal second half mis-kick followed by his failure to offer any defensive obstacle for Drogba's goal. His very presence on the pitch was a massive plus for Chelsea from the early minutes when he badly mistimed that first challenge on Kalou. Unlike the majority of posters I actually thought that in the face of what was a huge Chelsea performance [their finest since the peak Robben days?] the rest of the team [especially Xabi, Torres, Arbeloa, Kuyt and Lucas] did a pretty sterling job in trying to plug the deficiencies of Masch's absence, Stevie's inneffeciveness and Aurelio's nightmare. If the performances of the others had been anywhere near as bad as some are making out I doubt whether we'd have made the half dozen chances we did, retained possession as much as the stats show and restricted Chelsea to just that one goal from open play. Forgetting all this concentrating on the league business there's no doubt that if next Tuesday Benitez and the team can get those margins tilted slightly back in our favour then there is still an outside chance of retrieving this tie. If we did pull something out the bag then as Gravy has hinted it would re-write even our history book. One thing is definite though. Fabio Aurelio simply has to re-discover his form tomorrow against Blackburn or else there's no point in including him. With Insua not in the squad and Dossena nowhere near the level required we'd be better off playing 3 at the back with an extra wide midfielder.

Anyroad, as I was saying. Mikey is 100% right about all this transfer malarkey and everyone who disagrees with him is 100% wrong and a complete bar steward. OK?