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So now we've got Cole, Maxi, Kuyt, Gerrard, Aquilani and Jovanovic as options off Torres.

 

Cole wants a central role, Jovanovic was punished by being forced to play out left at Liege.

 

How, what, where. I can't even begin to see how this will work. Assuming Masch does leave will we have

 

Jovanovic Torres Kuyt

Aquilani Cole Gerrard

 

That will get raped. I need some formation expertise to make sense of this. If Cole and Jovanovic aren't left sided then who is? Gerrard.

Posted

So now we've got Cole, Maxi, Kuyt, Gerrard, Aquilani and Jovanovic as options off Torres.

 

Cole wants a central role, Jovanovic was punished by being forced to play out left at Liege.

 

How, what, where. I can't even begin to see how this will work. Assuming Masch does leave will we have

 

Jovanovic Torres Kuyt

Aquilani Cole Gerrard

 

That will get raped. I need some formation expertise to make sense of this. If Cole and Jovanovic aren't left sided then who is? Gerrard.

 

Left side is the new sweeper ie. we have decided to abolish it. We don't have any LBs and none of our left sided players stay wide....... It might just catch on.

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my money is on Cole to be left sided. or Kuyt with Maxi right. or Babel. we have options. which is nice.

 

moan because the squad is to small. moan because we have too many options going forward. its a tough old life

Posted

my money is on Cole to be left sided. or Kuyt with Maxi right. or Babel. we have options. which is nice.

 

moan because the squad is to small. moan because we have too many options going forward. its a tough old life

Quote from player hence my confusion because as he has come to us I imagine he got assurances about that.

 

"I want to play in a more central position and I want a manager who has faith in me."

 

My humble pie is currently defrosting with the news appearing in the transfer thread. It's still early days yet and we still have no left back but the speed these two have come in is most un Parry like !!!!

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Left side is the new sweeper ie. we have decided to abolish it. We don't have any LBs and none of our left sided players stay wide....... It might just catch on.

 

 

Yeah, let's see those opposition managers target our left-sided weaknesses now!

Posted

Squad. We need a squad. We still need to add to it. We need to bring in more players this window than leave.

Don't disagree I think we need some defenders and two central midfielders (if Masch goes), I just wonder how the current 8 attacking players we have will fit on the pitch in any sort of formation.

 

Gerrard in the holding role ?

 

Torres

Jovanovic Cole Kuyt

Gerrard Aquilani

 

Now THAT could be it.

Posted

Don't disagree I think we need some defenders and two central midfielders (if Masch goes), I just wonder how the current 8 attacking players we have will fit on the pitch in any sort of formation.

 

Gerrard in the holding role ?

 

Torres

Jovanovic Cole Kuyt

Gerrard Aquilani

 

Now THAT could be it.

I cry looking at that.

 

We need a centre forward. We need a centre mid whatever happens, two if Masch goes. We need two left backs. I'd argue we need an improvement at centre half.

 

Players will have to go to fund however much of that we can manage.

Posted

I don't wanna be doom and gloom but we have people comming in, lets see who goes to pay for them and the debt before we start marvelling at and discussing our options.

Posted

Quote from player hence my confusion because as he has come to us I imagine he got assurances about that.

 

"I want to play in a more central position and I want a manager who has faith in me."

 

My humble pie is currently defrosting with the news appearing in the transfer thread. It's still early days yet and we still have no left back but the speed these two have come in is most un Parry like !!!!

 

Which two? Who have I missed?

Posted (edited)

my money is on Cole to be left sided.

I was reading somewhere that Hodgson likes to use wingers playing on the "wrong side", so perhaps Cole on the left, Jovanovic on the right and one of Kuyt, Rodriguez, Aquilani and Pacheco playing off Torres?

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Posted

I was reading somewhere that Hodgson likes to use wingers playing on the "wrong side", so perhaps Cole on the left, Jovanovic on the right and one of Kuyt, Rodriguez, Aquilani and Pacheco playing off Torres?

 

in that case i think it will be kuyt left and cole off torres, rather than vice versa

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Guaranteed starters: Gerrard, Mascherano, Kuyt, Torres.

 

Those fighting for a place: Aquilani, Maxi, Cole, Jovanovic, Pacheco.

 

Aquilani will probably get quite a few games if Gerrard is pushed up but can be left out at any time, putting it down to his fitness.

 

Maxi is the best right-sided player we have but he shouldn't expect to play every game so that's him happy.

 

Cole is definitely the most effective creative force in the squad and shouldn't be short of games but like Aquilani, he can be rested on the basis we don't want him hurt. Those factors, plus the £90,000 a week should make him comfortable.

 

Jovanovic has acknowledged that Liverpool is a massive club so will presumably understand that he can't play every game. Being as versatile as he is though, he shouldn't be short of playing time.

 

Pacheco is young and can't expect to play all that much, especially after making his rise under Rafa.

Posted

I was reading somewhere that Hodgson likes to use wingers playing on the "wrong side", so perhaps Cole on the left, Jovanovic on the right and one of Kuyt, Rodriguez, Aquilani and Pacheco playing off Torres?

 

don't think it's been a long-standing policy as such. he tried it with some success when they were struggling a bit last season. related most to getting duff playing better and scoring goals.

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Guaranteed starters: Gerrard, Mascherano, Kuyt, Torres.

 

Those fighting for a place: Aquilani, Maxi, Cole, Jovanovic, Pacheco.

 

Aquilani will probably get quite a few games if Gerrard is pushed up but can be left out at any time, putting it down to his fitness.

 

Maxi is the best right-sided player we have but he shouldn't expect to play every game so that's him happy.

 

Cole is definitely the most effective creative force in the squad and shouldn't be short of games but like Aquilani, he can be rested on the basis we don't want him hurt. Those factors, plus the £90,000 a week should make him comfortable.

 

Jovanovic has acknowledged that Liverpool is a massive club so will presumably understand that he can't play every game. Being as versatile as he is though, he shouldn't be short of playing time.

 

Pacheco is young and can't expect to play all that much, especially after making his rise under Rafa.

 

Mascherano won't be here next season, and I'd guess Cole (if fit) will be a 'guaranteed' starter.

Posted

Mascherano won't be here next season, and I'd guess Cole (if fit) will be a 'guaranteed' starter.

 

He is still a Liverpool player so is guaranteed to start. None of the clubs he's been linked with even seem that interested.

Posted

He is still a Liverpool player so is guaranteed to start. None of the clubs he's been linked with even seem that interested.

 

You need to get out of the Egyptian river :D

Posted

He is still a Liverpool player so is guaranteed to start. None of the clubs he's been linked with even seem that interested.

 

That's certainly how it looks to me.

 

I only hope that our transfer plans don't rely on funds from this particular transfer or not as the case may be.

Posted

We need a left back (obviously) and an upgrade to Skrtel. Other than that our squad actually looks very competitive.

 

Another striker would be nice, but since we only play with one and we have Torres, Jova and Kuyt i'd prioritise defence.

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Reina

 

Johnson Carra Agger New LB

 

Rodriguez Gerrard Aquilani Jovanovic

 

Cole

Torres

 

This would require Gerrard to be more disciplined and play more of a holding role which I'm not convinced he is up to mentally. If Roy thinks we need a more defensive midfielder there we could drop Aquilani and bring in Lucas. It remains to be seen as to which players Roy rates and who will be in his first eleven.

Posted

I think Jovanovic can do on the left what Kuyt does on the right, something like this maybe......

 

........................................Reina.......................................

 

Johnson..............Carragher....Agger.............whovever?

 

..............................Lucas...........Gerrard..................

 

Kuyt.................................Cole.........................Jovanovic

 

.......................................Torres.....................................

 

 

With players like Maxi, Babel, Aquilani to come in if you want to change it up a bit and go for more traditional wide players, you also have the possibility of playing Cole wide right or left and playing Kuyt or Jovanovic off Torres. If Mascherano stays obviously he plays alongside Gerrard but if he is sold that should give us enough money for a decent left back, and a decent CB (think Hangeland would be a great replacement for Carragher) ideally we'd also get in someone better than Lucas.

Posted

I think Jovanovic can do on the left what Kuyt does on the right, something like this maybe......

 

........................................Reina.......................................

 

Johnson..............Carragher....Agger.............whovever?

 

..............................Lucas...........Gerrard..................

 

Kuyt.................................Cole.........................Jovanovic

 

.......................................Torres.....................................

 

 

With players like Maxi, Babel, Aquilani to come in if you want to change it up a bit and go for more traditional wide players, you also have the possibility of playing Cole wide right or left and playing Kuyt or Jovanovic off Torres. If Mascherano stays obviously he plays alongside Gerrard but if he is sold that should give us enough money for a decent left back, and a decent CB (think Hangeland would be a great replacement for Carragher) ideally we'd also get in someone better than Lucas.

 

I think we'll end up with something like this.

 

I'd prefer a 433 though. Maxi, Kuyt, Jovanovic and Cole could all play wide on the three, Gerrard, Cole, Lucas, Aquilani could all play central. We'd need two CMs more though if Masch leaves. Another more defensive mid would be needed anyway.

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