That c*nt McKenzie & The BBC again

[Leo No.8]

I get up this morning, switch the TV on for the news and find an unpleasant taste in my mouth which isn't morning breath. I'm greeted with that odious excuse for a human being Kelvin McKenzie on BBC's breakfast show.

 

They had him on discussing swine flu - f*cking swine flu. I mean what qualifications or experience does Kelvin McKenzie hold to make him any kind of authority on swine flu, apart from being a f*cking pig himself?

 

The BBC are so desperate to get him on the nation's televisions they'll pay him to come on and talk about anything. I hate them for this, I really do. He's obviously in bed with someone high up in the organsation and it makes me sick that I'm paying my TV license to have to watch him spouting his filth at every f*cking turn.

 

For people who had loved ones die at Hillsborough it must be like a constant reminder.

[DanielS]

We need to start some form of protest about his continued presence on the BBC. Its revolting. Anybody on the forum who might know a route to start complaining that doesn't start with the normal channels that will inevitably be dead ends?

[Stevie H]

We need to start some form of protest about his continued presence on the BBC. Its revolting. Anybody on the forum who might know a route to start complaining that doesn't start with the normal channels that will inevitably be dead ends?

could lobby the club to boycott the bbc, both tv and radio. ban them from press conferences etc until they stop giving public money to that shameless c*nt. local MPs should be in the mix too.

[Des]

We need to start some form of protest about his continued presence on the BBC earth.

[Des]

could lobby the club to boycott the bbc, both tv and radio. ban them from press conferences etc until they stop giving public money to that shameless c*nt. local MPs should be in the mix too.

 

That will simply not happen.

[Stevie H]

That will simply not happen.

what won't? the lobbying or the club boycotting the bbc?

[Des]

what won't? the lobbying or the club boycotting the bbc?

 

The latter.

[Stevie H]

The latter.

probably not, but stranger things have happened. ferguson manages to boycott the bbc altogether and LFC still bans the s*n from press conference etc.

[DanielS]

probably not, but stranger things have happened. ferguson manages to boycott the bbc altogether and LFC still bans the s*n from press conference etc.

 

Ferguson does, but Man Utd can't. Part of the contract over TV rights. Somebody from the management staff or team has to speak to them.

[Jarg Armani]

The club taking any stance would be a big step. .

[charlie clown]

probably not, but stranger things have happened. ferguson manages to boycott the bbc altogether and LFC still bans the s*n from press conference etc.

 

Ferguson doesn't appear but that's just that c**k polisher's choice, not a ManU thing - the club is more than happy to deal with eth BBC and Demento is happy to send out his deputies to do eth work for him.

 

As Des says. the club will nevere dissociate themselves with the BBC, it'd be commercial suicide.

[Duncan Disorderly]

Complaint webform:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/complaints/multistageform3.pl

 

Phone:

03700 100 222

 

Direct e-mail to BBC DG:

mark.thompson@bbc.co.uk

 

Mightn't make much of a difference, but if they get plenty of complaints, a dedicated complaint issue will be established and they all go forward to a daily audience log and it will definitely get picked up on.

 

Can but try?

[Stevie H]

Ferguson does, but Man Utd can't. Part of the contract over TV rights. Somebody from the management staff or team has to speak to them.

send out pellegrino to speak to them in spanish then.

[DanielS]

Complaint webform:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/complaints/multistageform3.pl

 

Phone:

03700 100 222

 

Direct e-mail to BBC DG:

mark.thompson@bbc.co.uk

 

Mightn't make much of a difference, but if they get plenty of complaints, a dedicated complaint issue will be established and they all go forward to a daily audience log and it will definitely get picked up on.

 

Can but try?

 

Just wondering if there is a particular person or department at the BBC that isn't part of the complaints process that we can target. The complaints process will use Ofcom guidelines to decide what is and isn't an issue.

[Duncan Disorderly]

A good tip is to e-mail particular people in the BBC by the following...

 

(first name).(surname)@bbc.co.uk

[Stevie H]

direct emails to the bbc will be met with the same response as always, 'the bbc appreciates your point of view but we are committed to offering viewers and listeners a cross-section of colourful opinion and kelvin mckenzie is a senior and experienced media figure. . .' etc. ad nauseum.

[Knox_Harrington]

What bemuses me is the utter contempt McKenzie has and no doubt continues to hold the BBC in. f***ing ridiculous.

 

BBC is shifting markedly to the right by the way - getting themselves ready for the Tory Government.

[Stevie H]

BBC is shifting markedly to the right by the way - getting themselves ready for the Tory Government.

when the conservatives sell the bbc to murdoch.

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

I sw on the tube the other day that he has a column in one of those horribly annoying free papers everyone takes & then leaves lying around.

 

I would boycott those, but I refuse to take them in the first place

[charlie clown]

I'm moving this to the main forum - I know it's not directly a football thing but if we're to raise a bit of awareness on it it needs to be where it'll get a bigger audience.

[Duncan Disorderly]

Good idea, Judith!

[Stanley Leisure]

I've raised this issue with some people at the BBC, recently.

 

Current affairs and factual aren't really my areas but I was offered McKenzie as a guest on one of the shows I do by a commissioning editor at the BBC. My response was to inform them of the reasons why that could never happen and to ask why he's being given the time of day, there.

 

Her defence was that they are well aware of his past but it is the past and he is respected as a media commentator. Their responses to complaints are pretty truthful in that respect, there is a party line. Obviously it's bullsh*t but what's clear is that McKnzie has friends in high places which is why he is being afforded their hospitality.

 

I know for a fact that several of the news and current affairs directors there think he's an abhorrent c*nt, and more or less everyone that works in my field wouldn't go near him, but not everyone there agrees - it's a big organisation which in this case is unfortunate.

 

Funnily enough, I'm doing something at CH4 at the moment and had to warn my booker that if my exec producer asked to book him, I'd walk - there's a real desire by some quarters to see him on telly, unfortunately.

[smithdown]

That's weird, Stan, cos even without our issues with him he seems to me to be extremely poor value as a guest/commentator anyway. I don't know who he writes for these days, if at all, but he's a busted flush on the telly - his type of sweaty swivel-eyed rhetoric is from a different era. He's sub-littlejohn, gaunt-lite flannel. When he was on QT it was like dead air when his gob fell open, and he's always reaching in the dark for the lowest common denominator - he doesn't even know where it is anymore, he relies on postures and expressions and is running on empty. He's not even 'controversial', he's just a reminder of what people used to look like years ago when fat middle aged white men were rolling their sleeves up and taking coke while at work.

Edited May 8, 2009 by smithdown

[Stanley Leisure]

That's weird, Stan, cos even without our issues with him he seems to me to be extremely poor value as a guest/commentator anyway. I don't know who he writes for these days, if at all, but he's a busted flush on the telly - his type of sweaty swivel-eyed rhetoric is from a different era. He's sub-littlejohn, gaunt-lite flannel. When he was on QT it was like dead air when his gob fell open, and he's always reaching in the dark for the lowest common denominator - he doesn't even know where it is anymore, he relies on postures and expressions and is running on empty. He's not even 'controversial', he's just a reminder of what people used to look like years ago when fat middle aged white men were rolling their sleeves up and taking coke while at work.

 

I think the idea is that he might say something controversial and therefore get the show/channel in the papers. CH4 in particular are desperate for ratings and will take any kind of publicity they can get.

 

Comedy Entertainment and Factual/Current affairs are the two areas where you can get these moments of controversy and so they want stunt bookings - it's a policy i've always tried to ignore since I was given a bigger say on what happens on my shows.

 

I don't mind booking a c*nt for something, knowing they might get a kicking, but you have to keep it in the realms of pop culture and make it more panto than politics. People like McKenzie transcend this - i'd rather have Peter Sutcliffe on.

Edited May 8, 2009 by Stanley Leisure

[Jarg Armani]

I'd agree with that Smithdown. He looks so out of touch and uncontroversial whenever he's on.

 

Sometimes i think the only thing he's got is the Hillsborough card. It was kelvin wot done it, have me on your programs.