Newstalk 106 on Hillsborough

[Dublinred4ever]

Not sure if anyones mentioned this elsewhere but Newstalk 106's Off The Ball show in Ireland did a feature last night on the coverage of Hillsborough by the tabloid press.

 

I didn't catch it all but they spent some of the feature discussing what motivated that creep McKenzie to run his 'The Truth' story.

 

They had Roy Greenslade who was deputy editor of the sun contributing and also a journalist who's name escapes me who's written about the history of tabloid journalism in the UK.

 

From the 15 mins I heard the presenters who are always very good anyway, did a good job of educating anyone listening who's not aware of the real cause of the disaster and also the depths the sun and the daily star sank to in their reporting of the tragedy.

 

The piece opened with Radio Citys reporter at the game relaying the events back to the studio. At that stage the scale of what was happening hadn't become apparant because he told his colleague in the studio with audible shock that he'd heard reports that there might have been one death.

 

Off the Ball also have the Milan Madrid game where the Milan fans sing YNWA after 6 minutes as their video of the week

 

http://newstalk.ie/newstalk/off-the-ball/downloads.html

 

I'll email them and see if last nights piece can be downloaded or podcast.

 

Worth a listen

[Leo No.8]

Thanks for that Dublinred.

 

Unbelievable what the Milan fans did in singing YNWA for 6 minutes, and along with the fact that they were the great European team when I was growing up its the main reason Milan are my favourite non English club.

 

Classy club, lots of history and many of my favourite all time players like Van Basten and Maldini.

Edited April 7, 2009 by Leo No.8

[Dublinred4ever]

Yeah it was very moving alright.

 

One of the most poignant things I've seen in football.

[Hassony]

Thanks for that Dublinred.

 

Unbelievable what the Milan fans did in singing YNWA for 6 minutes, and along with the fact that they were the great European team when I was growing up its the main reason Milan are my favourite non English club.

 

Classy club, lots of history and many of my favourite all time players like Van Basten and Maldini.

 

I had tears in my eyes watching that and the video of the new single

 

very moving

[Snookie]

It was an extraordinary moment. Didn't the stop the game 6 minutes in to do it as well?

 

For me, Milan are probably the closest of all European clubs to Liverpool. Their players have always had dignity, humility and a commitment to winning. They're also run by a complete c***.

[Bologna]

I watched that Milan Real game on telly in Italy.

First of all I'd like to say that Milan used to sing YNWA before Hillsborough happened and so for their fans to sing that song is not as "unlikely" as some seem to be suggesting.

Secondly, my memory of the minutes silcence was yes the game had started, but only just when the ref blew his whistle for the comemoration to begin. I've tried to find evidence to support this memory but can't find any so I may be wrong.

[Hassony]

I watched that Milan Real game on telly in Italy.

First of all I'd like to say that Milan used to sing YNWA before Hillsborough happened and so for their fans to sing that song is not as "unlikely" as some seem to be suggesting.

Secondly, my memory of the minutes silcence was yes the game had started, but only just when the ref blew his whistle for the comemoration to begin. I've tried to find evidence to support this memory but can't find any so I may be wrong.

have you clicked on the link in the first post?

[Bologna]

have you clicked on the link in the first post?

Yes.

The commentator makes no reference to 6 minutes. Like I said my memory, which is generally excellent, is that the game had just started. Like I said, I may be wong.

[Hassony]

Yes.

The commentator makes no reference to 6 minutes. Like I said my memory, which is generally excellent, is that the game had just started. Like I said, I may be wong.

 

the minute silence was for 1 minute, but they kept singing YNWA for six minutes

 

is that right?

[Snookie]

Secondly, my memory of the minutes silcence was yes the game had started, but only just when the ref blew his whistle for the comemoration to begin. I've tried to find evidence to support this memory but can't find any so I may be wrong.

 

You're right. It was organised by Milan and agreed to by both teams. I watched the game also. Milan were magnificent but the game didn't matter.

[Duncan Disorderly]

Yes.

The commentator makes no reference to 6 minutes. Like I said my memory, which is generally excellent, is that the game had just started. Like I said, I may be wong.

Racialist!

[Dublinred4ever]

Emailed the show and got a reply from Ken Early, one of the main presenters.

 

He's kindly set up a link for anyone here who wishes to listen, so fair play to him for taking the time to do that.

 

http://www.yousendit.com/download/UmNMTmZZeDNrWTlMWEE9PQ

 

Its worth a listen as is the show which as any of the Irish forumites probably know is always a good listen.

 

The shows website is http://newstalk.ie/newstalk/off-the-ball/index.html

Edited April 7, 2009 by Dublinred4ever

[jimmylibel]

Emailed the show and got a reply from Ken Early, one of the main presenters.

 

He's kindly set up a link for anyone here who wishes to listen, so fair play to him for taking the time to do that.

 

http://www.yousendit.com/download/UmNMTmZZeDNrWTlMWEE9PQ

 

Its worth a listen as is the show which as any of the Irish forumites probably know is always a good listen.

 

The shows website is http://newstalk.ie/newstalk/off-the-ball/index.html

 

Fair play Dublinred.

 

Ken Early is a big red so I'm not surprised he's handled all this well. Fair play to him though

[Snookie]

Fair play Dublinred.

 

Ken Early is a big red so I'm not surprised he's handled all this well. Fair play to him though

He's good on the radio but he was absolutely terrible on the guardian podcast. You realise though just what a good presenter James Richardson is after hearing him

[jimmylibel]

He's good on the radio but he was absolutely terrible on the guardian podcast. You realise though just what a good presenter James Richardson is after hearing him

 

I'm afraid I've gone completely off James Richardson ala Paul Caruso. Can't stand the way he talks about us on Setanta. So much so that I just ignore his programme now completely.

[Kop_on]

Newstalks "Talking History" show on Sunday night also dedicated an hour to Hillsborough the other night. The only reason I caught it was because it was on after the Sunday Sports Show.

 

It was really fitting and very informative with contributions from Phil Scraton, Rogan Taylor & Ronnie Whelan to name but 3. It was especially interesting to hear Rogan Taylor talk about how the English establishment transferred its prejudices towards Irish people in the 19th Century to Scousers in the 20th Century following mass emigration resulting from the Great Hunger.

 

I'm going to dig around & see if I can find a link to the show

[Coyler]

First of all I'd like to say that Milan used to sing YNWA before Hillsborough happened and so for their fans to sing that song is not as "unlikely" as some seem to be suggesting.

Didn't they originally adopt the song to goad Juventus fans? Not trying to tarnish them or anything -- their tribute after Hillsborough is unquestionably one of the most moving things I've ever seen -- but I remember something of the sort being claimed in the course of similar discussions around the time of the quarter-final in 2005. Apologies if I'm off the mark.

[Grimes]

Newstalks "Talking History" show on Sunday night also dedicated an hour to Hillsborough the other night. The only reason I caught it was because it was on after the Sunday Sports Show.

 

It was really fitting and very informative with contributions from Phil Scraton, Rogan Taylor & Ronnie Whelan to name but 3. It was especially interesting to hear Rogan Taylor talk about how the English establishment transferred its prejudices towards Irish people in the 19th Century to Scousers in the 20th Century following mass emigration resulting from the Great Hunger.

 

I'm going to dig around & see if I can find a link to the show

 

Here's a link to the Podcast of that show. Its well worth a listen:

 

http://newstalk.ie/newstalk/podcasts/19/hi...ing-history.xml , its also on iTunes I believe.

[Flight]

Thanks for the OP and getting the links set up, Dublinred.

[charlie clown]

By the way, there is a programme about Hillsborough on Radio 4 this coming Sunday. Sounds from the wee trailer I heard that it will cover it more from the human story angle, interviews with those involved, rather it being an indepth analysis. Worth a listen though, no doubt. It's on at 11.15 am and the programme is called The Reunion.

[Flight]

And a reminder that Kenny is giving his first ever interview about Hillsborough on a documentary to be screened on the night of the anniversary on the History channel

[Kop_on]

Here's a link to the Podcast of that show. Its well worth a listen:

 

http://newstalk.ie/newstalk/podcasts/19/hi...ing-history.xml , its also on iTunes I believe.

 

That'd be it alright, Cheers.

 

Again, if anyone has an hour to spare its well worth a listen

[Kahnee]

He's good on the radio but he was absolutely terrible on the guardian podcast. You realise though just what a good presenter James Richardson is after hearing him

 

Totally agree. Thought Early was terrible

[Bologna]

Didn't they originally adopt the song to goad Juventus fans? Not trying to tarnish them or anything -- their tribute after Hillsborough is unquestionably one of the most moving things I've ever seen -- but I remember something of the sort being claimed in the course of similar discussions around the time of the quarter-final in 2005. Apologies if I'm off the mark.

I don't know.