MOTD2

[charlie clown]

I don't think I'd ever seen it until a couple of weeks back - I can't believe how much better it is than MOTD - largely due in part to Adrian Chiles rather than the perma-tanned autocue-dependent bluenose who fronts Satdee night's embarrassment-fest. How can one 'brand' have two programmes so similar but so much different in quality? The punditry is still pretty rubbish though.

[Sion]

Adrian Chiles is a bad man

the pundits are normally better though

Dixon and Keown when they're on talk quite a lot of sense, well in comparison to Shearer and Lawro

[Jarg Armani]

dixon seems to be the only pundit on the bbc who talks about the footy, rather than the ref and 'should they have had a penalty'. hansen is limiting himself to one good observation a season, lawro mainly sticks to his borat impressions/s**** innuendoes. shearer would be alright if he gave opinions instead of commentating on montages.

[deacon]

The difference is quality is stark. The best they had was Gordon Strachan, he was brilliant as the regular pundit. Lee Dixon is really good too, he really breaks a game down and analyses where the game was decided.

 

Contrast that to Hansen and Lawrenson's banal analysis on Sunday. The highlights packages put together by the BBC are bad enough (I mean do we really need to see 3 replays of each goal/key moment? Just show more of the football in the 10 minutes, FFS), but afterwards, Lawro just described what happened during the build up to each goal. Thanks for that Lawro, I have a pair of eyes, you c***.

[charlie clown]

The difference is quality is stark. The best they had was Gordon Strachan, he was brilliant as the regular pundit. Lee Dixon is really good too, he really breaks a game down and analyses where the game was decided.

 

Contrast that to Hansen and Lawrenson's banal analysis on Sunday. The highlights packages put together by the BBC are bad enough (I mean do we really need to see 3 replays of each goal/key moment? Just show more of the football in the 10 minutes, FFS), but afterwards, Lawro just described what happened during the build up to each goal. Thanks for that Lawro, I have a pair of eyes, you c***.

 

That's one of the things that infuriates me - you hardly see any of the match but about third of what you do see is the same piece of action run through over and over again and then they show the same footage a couple of more times when the pundits dissect it afterwards.

[Nate.]

I thought it was shockingly bad at the weekend.

 

Highlighted by them showing Robinho missing from a yard or two out as a chance when the fella was offside by a mile, and yet not mentioning that at all.

[Gomez]

I thought it was shockingly bad at the weekend.

 

Highlighted by them showing Robinho missing from a yard or two out as a chance when the fella was offside by a mile, and yet not mentioning that at all.

 

And ignoring the Kuyt penalty completely. Kind of a key incident if you are attempting to portray the game.

[matty]

It's better because it has a more relaxed feel than the saturday night show, but it could be a really good programme if they gave each match an extra few minutes so we got an idea of how it really was. Not just a few shots at either end. I've given up expecting intelligent analysis.

[Hassony]

It's better because it has a more relaxed feel than the saturday night show, but it could be a really good programme if they gave each match an extra few minutes so we got an idea of how it really was. Not just a few shots at either end. I've given up expecting intelligent analysis.

 

the problem is too many games on sunday, its better when there are only 2 games playes

 

and Chiles is a c***

[ManxRed]

Chiles is 50 times better than that autocue-reading cringeworthy-pun-making jug-eared tw*t on MOTD1.

[D.Boon]

They need to get back to focusing on 2 or 3 games and showing 15 minutes of each with just the goals from the other games.

 

Im happy to watch a Hull v Wigan game providing i see enough to actually get a feel for the way the game was rather than the current goal mouth incidents and 'was it, wasn't it offside' controversies for every game played.

[Behind Enemy Lines]

They need to get back to focusing on 2 or 3 games and showing 15 minutes of each with just the goals from the other games.

 

Im happy to watch a Hull v Wigan game providing i see enough to actually get a feel for the way the game was rather than the current goal mouth incidents and 'was it, wasn't it offside' controversies for every game played.

Quite agree - they have gone from focusing on 2 or 3 games plus goals from others - to showing 'samples' from each game - quite how they condensed our game on Sunday to a little over 8 mins is crazy - you got no idea of how the game was - never mind what they chose to leave out.

[psl]

Quite agree - they have gone from focusing on 2 or 3 games plus goals from others - to showing 'samples' from each game - quite how they condensed our game on Sunday to a little over 8 mins is crazy - you got no idea of how the game was - never mind what they chose to leave out.

 

Because usually there are only two or three games on a Sunday but because there are currently so many English sides in the UEFA Cup, they have to fit more games into the same time slot.

[charlie clown]

Quite agree - they have gone from focusing on 2 or 3 games plus goals from others - to showing 'samples' from each game - quite how they condensed our game on Sunday to a little over 8 mins is crazy - you got no idea of how the game was - never mind what they chose to leave out.

 

The derby was a case in point - if you knew nothing about the game apart from what they showed, you'd think it was dominated by Everton.

[ManxRed]

Because usually there are only two or three games on a Sunday but because there are currently so many English sides in the UEFA Cup, they have to fit more games into the same time slot.

 

Is this why Everton have gallantly and graciously decided to sacrifice their UEFA Cup place? I for one applaud their actions! Well done chaps!!

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Because usually there are only two or three games on a Sunday but because there are currently so many English sides in the UEFA Cup, they have to fit more games into the same time slot.

They have the same problem in both Sat & sun editions

In the old days it would be about 20 mins of the main game (at least) then less of two featured games - then just the goals from the others (if you where lucky)

much better program

I don't agree that they 'have' to fit all the games in - its doing so that is ruining the program

better to show fewer properly so - as has already been said - you get a proper feeling for those games - than to give us the scattergun - must show all approach they give currently

[charlie clown]

Adrian Chiles is a bad man

 

 

and Chiles is a c***

 

What's up with him? I know he's a Baggie fanatic but he comes across pretty well on the telly most of the time. Never found him objectionable at all. Or have I missed a forum handbook rules update?

[ManxRed]

I think he's quite funny, and he's a very good presenter.

[Gomez]

I think he's quite funny, and he's a very good presenter.

 

Should get his wife to do it, she's much more articulate and witty.

[ManxRed]

Haven't they split up?

[Hassony]

What's up with him? I know he's a Baggie fanatic but he comes across pretty well on the telly most of the time. Never found him objectionable at all. Or have I missed a forum handbook rules update?

 

Gerrard got upset with him last season about something he said, I just feel he offers too many of his opinions when he is just a fan at the end of the day, and not in any way a football expert

 

plus some of his reports at the euros were just weird

[anny road]

Haven't they split up?

 

 

yeah a few months back

[deacon]

Gerrard got upset with him last season about something he said, I just feel he offers too many of his opinions when he is just a fan at the end of the day, and not in any way a football expert

 

plus some of his reports at the euros were just weird

 

So what if Gerrard got uspet with him? It would be better if the football pundits and presenters got in the faces of the players and managers, instead of all trying to be their mates, like Andy Gray and Redknapp do.

 

Well I've got much more time for his opinions than those offered by Hansen, Shearer and Lawro. Anyway, I don't remember him offering too many opinions about the football played, his opinions and thoughts tend to be more about what goes on off the pitch. He has a very good rapport with the other pundits, asks pertinent questions, is engaging, not smug and is occasionally funny. In short, he's everything you want to see in a presenter. I like the fact he spots the quirky and funny things and occasionally professes his ignorance about tactics whilst being genuinely enthusiastic about football. He reminds me of Danny Baker, which isn't a bad thing.

[Guest Snorky]

Who was on the end of the Gerrard/Carra attack over Crouch ?

[Duncan Disorderly]

So what if Gerrard got uspet with him? It would be better if the football pundits and presenters got in the faces of the players and managers, instead of all trying to be their mates, like Andy Gray and Redknapp do.

 

Well I've got much more time for his opinions than those offered by Hansen, Shearer and Lawro. Anyway, I don't remember him offering too many opinions about the football played, his opinions and thoughts tend to be more about what goes on off the pitch. He has a very good rapport with the other pundits, asks pertinent questions, is engaging, not smug and is occasionally funny. In short, he's everything you want to see in a presenter. I like the fact he spots the quirky and funny things and occasionally professes his ignorance about tactics whilst being genuinely enthusiastic about football. He reminds me of Danny Baker, which isn't a bad thing.

Well said!

 

I think he represents the footie punter more than that crisp promoter ever will. Thinks quick on his feet too, after that "jessie" remark by Lawro. He was right in there trying to get a clarification when he knew rightly that the "silent majority" of BBC viewers would kick up about such a term. It saved us a lot of work!

Edited October 8, 2008 by Duncan Disorderly