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He's a brilliant defender when he wants to be. Really hope he signs a new contract.

Special mention to Ibou. Not had the best of seasons but under the circumstances with what he's been through this week he's put in an immense performance.

Just a bit more fuel...

Can't remember who said it but whoever was said we'd see Wirtz perform without Salah in the team. Which we did. He's regressed again now Salah is back.

Also Slots Liverpool this season comfortably beat Madrid.

If Konate is down to money we should be offering more. It's unlikely we can sign anyone better despite his form this season.

But still you'd expect him to navigate it. Ancelotti managed to do it.

Yeah, agree, Madrid is a madhouse and that context matters. If the reports about players not buying into his methods are true though, that’s a concern for me. Managing big personalities is essential at the top level, and it makes me wonder if that would translate here. Hypothetically, if Klopp took that job, I just can’t see the same thing happening, which says a lot about the difference in approach. I’m not against Alonso being considered, but personally I’d lean toward someone more proven if they’re available, Ancelotti, Tuchel, Enrique all feel safer bets. Alonso’s achievements are solid, but for me, they don’t outweigh the red flags when there could be five or so managers this summer with stronger track records.

Fair enough, I get that people aren’t saying Alonso is guaranteed success, just that they’d take a chance on him. And yes, what he did at Leverkusen was impressive, no doubt. My point is more about context, success in one league doesn’t always translate, and Real Madrid was a tough spell for him. For me, that raises some questions when there could be more proven options available this summer. I’m not against Alonso being considered, but I think it’s fair to ask whether the hype outweighs the evidence right now.

Yeah, it does feel like he’s running out of options now, and I’m not sure he can turn this around either. What frustrates me is how quickly Alonso is being talked up as the answer when, honestly, there’s no real evidence yet that he’s a better manager at this level. It’s easy to get caught up in hype, but replacing one struggling manager with someone unproven doesn’t guarantee progress.

No doubt but you don't fluke winning a league. He's obviously a very good coach.

So he was a good manager last season and now he's not?

Not at all love the guy just others I'd prefer. Alonso still has a lot to prove as a manager for me.

He's just an ideal squad option off the bench. He was fine last season with Diaz being first choice.

Cool, who's available? Bearing in mind Alonso's CV is no better than Slots.

Unfortunately that is Klopp.

But this time there isn't a Klopp waiting in the wings.

He wasn't great today but still much better than Salah.

He is. That was 3 individual errors.

Virgil and particularly Salah are done, his pace has completely gone.

Please just not Alonso.

Time for Virgil and Salah to go as well.

This is all on Virgil. Both goals s***e defending.

f***ing hell Virgil