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My point was more that playing in the EC under Wenger is more likely to develop a player than moving to Birmingham. Or whoever it was he went to. Well, to be honest, my point was really all based on the fact that Pascal Cygan was the first totally average foreign player that I could think of, and I had to find an English player to shoehorn into that. Course, I can't really see the benefit of England having a slightly better Matthew Upson. He's still not gonna get in ahead of Terry, Campbell or Ferdinand, who were all 'good enough' and therefore not affected by the number of foreigners in the game.

Whilst I agree that if you're good enough you'll get the chances, I think it's at least an arguable point that, say, Matthew Upson might have gone on to be a better player had he had first team opportunities under Wenger rather than being kept out of the side by, say, Pascal Cygan.

Do you really think that the average punter watching Eastenders will have sat there and disected the scene like we have? They will have watched it, realised they're talking about hooliganism, and seen Minty as making his points about how bad it is and then gone on to talk about the famous hooligan-related deaths (in their eyes). I saw the episode. It will have just served to further plebs' opinions on it and it wouldn't have been too difficult to script it withoug mentioning Hillsborough at all. It's quite easy to forget how ignorant people are about Hillsborough. When I went to college I lived with an Arsenal fan from Reading. He's one of the cleverest people I know, but (til I set him straight) he was convinced that Liverpool fans were robbing the dead at Hillsborough and that it was to some extent our fault. Course it's not on the same scale as the Sun, but I'd say that this falls under the same banner as the footage of Hillsborough being used in that Michael Moore film when referencing hooliganism. It's bang out of order.

I hate when we get penalties. I expect all of our players to miss. Alright, I don't actually hate it, but you know what I mean

I managed to have a Chelsea - Everton draw in my coupon, and f***ing Watford go and let me down

It also would've been interesting what would have happened if the Glams had injuries to their key players last season. But it didn't happen. Whilst it may be nice, we can't really rely on it

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Look at the fear in Arbeloa's eyes!

I read something at the bottom of an Independent commentry piece about how Lampard wanted the journalist to interview him, but wanted his people to read through the interview before it went to print, and he didn't want it in the Sports section cos he was "rebranding" himself. The journalist told him to f*** himself, although not in so many words. Can't for the life of me find the link, though. I've used Google and everything.

He ran over to Lucas who was warming up on the sidelines and Lucas was all ready to join in and hug him or whatever. Then Gerrard just turned away before reaching the side, leaving poor Lucas there on his own, thinking of what could have been.

Did anyone see after the second goal when Pepe sprinted out, past the back 4 just to congratulate, ahem, Jonny Rockets on his throw that led to the goal? Struck me as a bit odd.

He nearly fecking killed Yossi when he jumped on him after the hattrick goal tonight

I'm going the game. Not going the pub before or after though. I'm just glad I could contribute so much to this thread.

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They teaching you Portuguese lip reading as well now?

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f***ing riles me, that. Every time a pass is over 10 yards they shout it. Alonso was pinging placed passes last week and they were doing it. The t***s.

Is Tevez playing?

The utter, utter c****. Their only attack of the game. At least the game might pick up a bit now.

Anyone watching the Glams vs the a***? Considering these are the only 2 teams in perhaps the world who play good football according to Sky, this game is f***ing turgid so far.

I have to say, I didn't play that much of a part in our 5 wins. Wouldn't, well doesn't, stop me baiting Mancs about it as much as possible, though

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