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That's horrible

What'd he say?

Cos he's one of the finest midfielders ever produced by this country?

Haha wasn't great was it.

I think he's fantastic at everything until the attacking third. No full back can touch him until that point and he drives and carries the fight to that point better than anyone else. Once there we need to work on his offloading issues. He either has to give it to someone straight away or learn what sort of decisions to make. Right now he just smashes it somewhere useless or just holds on to it forever (until tackled).

SHOCKING!

I'm not sure that even if Carroll and Suarez are both on form that their games complement each other. Remember that strike partnership of Brbatov and Keane. Neither was particularly going just to stay up top and neither was always going to be in the hole. They both were good at both without being specialists and that was their strength as individuals and a partnership. (Keane moves here and gets told to play behind Torres and can't. He then has to play up top and can't. Berbatov hasn't been a roaring success although you'd think he would have been able to split duties with Rooney. That might have more to do with the tempo the Mancs play at and his seeming desire to slow things down. Could be wrong.) I think the same is true of Suarez. He needs to play with himself if it's in a two because he does like leading the line for large chunks but if he's doing that then he can't have the ball all the time which he also wants. Look at how he works with Forlan. They can both do both. Even if we sign a finisher which we all want, then if their overall game isn't up to much then they'll be operating in luis' space

That's not playing on the wrong side then

He hasn't got an attitude. Well not a bad one. He breaks his b0ll0x to make things happen

Ref brought down Agbonlahor and failed to book himself mind Woodgate set for another murdering at RB

we just need to kick the ball in the net when we have the ball in front of the net. There's other things we can tinker with but they're being massively amplified by one thing. Goals, goals, goals are what we need. It's the economy of finishing stupid!

Why does he do that? You've beaten the man Luis!!!!!! In fact you beaten all the men Luis, you don't to do it again!!!!!!!!! He didn't though. He mixed it up well today. The delivery wasn't consistently great but he wasn't predictable

The three 2-2s? Owen was the bugger who kept missing until we went back to counter-attcking football v city and he knocked in a hattrick Finishing is without a doubt the biggest problem. If we could do it we'd be way higher up and have more confidence to exert more control.

Yeah there's occassional problems in build up but there is an opposition trying to stop us. You can't say the players can't do it when they create loads. The problem is finishing. We finish at a lower standard then where we want to be. Fix that and we're set. This is all really harsh.

He seems more willing to run with it down the right plus the defender is less likely to telegraph his move

Nah that aint it fella

I think that if Carrol is going to work here we have to sacrifice expecting him to be useful in intricate build up and just tell him to get himself up top and work on his movement to get the chances to score. The good thing about today was that he could have had two and settled the game.

He can't get assists if people don't put it away. I'm not saying that he's great or he assisted anything but he did alright today.

We've got to get a goalscorer. It's where our problems begin and end at the moment. Well up until we play someone good enough to exploit the Lucas shaped hole in out team.

He did.

It's everything that he does in the last part of the pitch which is poor. He is absolutely fantastic at carrying the fight to the opposition from deep areas but once he gets there... I don't know. It's just not between the ears I think.

We're really poor at finishing. We finish at a standard way below where we want to be in the league. That's our biggest problem. That's the issue which needs to be addressed and quickly.

If that boy ever develops the concept of end product then he'll be something special.

They seem to be trying to feed him early in that first 45 mins

Someone needs to teach him some words. He doesn't know any. Oh no wonder there's all the confusion. We've been defending the wrong charge.