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Maybe he did say it to a Scum reporter unwittingly? It's not like all reporters go around saying who they work for, or have the banner of their employers emblazoned on their foreheads or something.

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People have to stop over reacting to this.

 

On press days like this/yesterday, all the journos turn up at a pre arranged time and meet up in the press room. The manager and/or designated players come in, together (usually) or singly, and talk to the media. First up is TV and radio, then the dailies, then the Sundays (if its a Friday press briefing).

 

So the player only very very rarely sits down and talks directly to one journo - unless the journo pays for it these days (sign of the times). Any and normally ALL quotes that come out the day before a match day are made to a table full of journalists or from a microphone to a room full of journalists.

 

Robbie didn't speak to the Sun - almost certainly a stringer from a Sports News Agency was at the press event at Melwood, scribbled down his shorthand and went back to his newsroom where he knocked out 300 words and sold the story to the Sun.

 

Sky may well have lifted the quotes from the sun (probably from the Newscorp intranet/server/feed) and hey presto, Robbie "told the sun" when he also told every other hack there the exact same thing.

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People have to stop over reacting to this.

 

On press days like this/yesterday, all the journos turn up at a pre arranged time and meet up in the press room. The manager and/or designated players come in, together (usually) or singly, and talk to the media. First up is TV and radio, then the dailies, then the Sundays (if its a Friday press briefing).

 

So the player only very very rarely sits down and talks directly to one journo - unless the journo pays for it these days (sign of the times). Any and normally ALL quotes that come out the day before a match day are made to a table full of journalists or from a microphone to a room full of journalists.

 

Robbie didn't speak to the Sun - almost certainly a stringer from a Sports News Agency was at the press event at Melwood, scribbled down his shorthand and went back to his newsroom where he knocked out 300 words and sold the story to the Sun.

 

Sky may well have lifted the quotes from the sun (probably from the Newscorp intranet/server/feed) and hey presto, Robbie "told the sun" when he also told every other hack there the exact same thing.

 

 

I will never stop 'overreacting' over the S*n.

 

What they did was disgraceful and we should never relax our guard.

 

I told a couple the other day, as a steward, not to bring a S*n into the Kop - was I 'overreacting' then

 

I have a go at Reds buying that s***ty rag when I watch them from Newsagents - was I 'overreacting' then

 

Buy that f***ing s***ty rag at the ground or nearby or on an away by all means - but fully expect me to 'overreact'

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fair points Dus - but is it not part of a Murdoch Empire campaign to represent their paper as one which the players feel it's alright to talk to and thereby one that fans should think it's alright to buy?

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I will never stop 'overreacting' over the S*n.

 

What they did was disgraceful and we should never relax our guard.

 

I told a couple the other day, as a steward, not to bring a S*n into the Kop - was I 'overreacting' then

 

I have a go at Reds buying that s***ty rag when I watch them from Newsagents - was I 'overreacting' then

 

Buy that f***ing s***ty rag at the ground or nearby or on an away by all means - but fully expect me to 'overreact'

 

You've obviously misinterpreted what I am saying - or I have misinterpreted what the issue is here. My point describes how and why Sky Sports News say things like "blah blah blah, Robbie Fowler told the Sun"

 

It had nothing to do with why we shouldn't buy the Sun.

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fair points Dus - but is it not part of a Murdoch Empire campaign to represent their paper as one which the players feel it's alright to talk to and thereby one that fans should think it's alright to buy?

 

Perhaps it is part of their motivation but Sky Sports will have taken the quotes from the Agency Hack who attended, by way of the Sun, so regardless of any effort we make they aren't going to change what WOULD be standard journalistic practice if they weren't there themselves (which I presume they were, given they'll show it tómorrow?).

 

I can see the importance of representing the point, given Sky could in theory say "Robbie told the Times" but maybe the Times don't file copy as quickly or maybe wouldn't even carry the quote at all. Unless Sky had people there themselves, they have to get the quote somewhere.

 

I'm not defending anything except standard journalistic practice.

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You've obviously misinterpreted what I am saying - or I have misinterpreted what the issue is here. My point describes how and why Sky Sports News say things like "blah blah blah, Robbie Fowler told the Sun"

 

It had nothing to do with why we shouldn't buy the Sun.

 

Ah. Fair enough - I apologise - as I see what you mean

 

I get a bit hot under the collar when that paper is mentioned.

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Perhaps it is part of their motivation but Sky Sports will have taken the quotes from the Agency Hack who attended, by way of the Sun, so regardless of any effort we make they aren't going to change what WOULD be standard journalistic practice if they weren't there themselves (which I presume they were, given they'll show it tómorrow?).

 

I can see the importance of representing the point, given Sky could in theory say "Robbie told the Times" but maybe the Times don't file copy as quickly or maybe wouldn't even carry the quote at all. Unless Sky had people there themselves, they have to get the quote somewhere.

 

I'm not defending anything except standard journalistic practice.

aye - i know what you mean

 

the thing is - SKY do have people there

 

 

i've written to the Editor anyway - ill post any response i get.

 

 

If i was Robbie Fowler i wouldn't be happy about it

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Ah. Fair enough - I apologise - as I see what you mean

 

I get a bit hot under the collar when that paper is mentioned.

 

No apology needed Andy, I can see where you are coming from.

 

And to be fair, maybe if we did represent to Sky that we as the target Audience don't like hearing an implication that our players have talked directly to a pariah organisation when they haven't, they might not do it again. Could be that Cobs is right and they do it as editorial policy to try slowly re-ingratiate the name of that paper among our fans without the awareness they should have. But maybe it was also a good editor attributing the story to the right place - ie where they got it from - (but phrasing it poorly) or it could have been a new cr@p editor forgetting he shouldn't use that phrase about Liverpool players when it's 'ok' for them to use it for other clubs players.

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its all very civilised the debate on here isn't it. If this was the Liverpool Way we would all be calling each other c**** for three pages

On the topic why do they have to say which paper printed it. especially if they all did? seems a bit fishy to me

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its all very civilised the debate on here isn't it. If this was the Liverpool Way we would all be calling each other c**** for three pages

On the topic why do they have to say which paper printed it. especially if they all did? seems a bit fishy to me

 

c***! :thumbs:

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The only way our players aren't going to talk to the s*n is if they're banned from the ground, I guess.

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