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[Murphman]

  On 01/06/2025 at 11:19, Kvarme Ate My Food said:

Don’t care about it from a football perspective, but it’s annoying that someone who was on our side in the battles against City is now going to help legitimise their cheating bellendry. 

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I think this a bit of a stretch KAMF to be honest. The motional attachment isn't at the same level for a coach as it is a player, particularly considering he's gone off to work for Red Bull and not gone direct.

I'd agree were it Jurgen but his role was immense compared to Linders. He's just a coach..

[Kvarme Ate My Food]

  On 01/06/2025 at 13:43, Murphman said:

I think this a bit of a stretch KAMF to be honest. The motional attachment isn't at the same level for a coach as it is a player, particularly considering he's gone off to work for Red Bull and not gone direct.

I'd agree were it Jurgen but his role was immense compared to Linders. He's just a coach..

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Well ok, but by that token he can’t take any credit for anything we achieved while he worked for us. 

[Ombudsam]

  On 01/06/2025 at 14:35, Kvarme Ate My Food said:

Well ok, but by that token he can’t take any credit for anything we achieved while he worked for us. 

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Done!

[Murphman]

  On 01/06/2025 at 14:35, Kvarme Ate My Food said:

Well ok, but by that token he can’t take any credit for anything we achieved while he worked for us. 

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I didn't say he deserved no credit for his work but his input was minimal by comparison to Jurgen's.

[Kvarme Ate My Food]

  On 01/06/2025 at 19:24, Murphman said:

I didn't say he deserved no credit for his work but his input was minimal by comparison to Jurgen's.

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I know you didn’t say that but I’m saying he can’t have it both ways. 

[PaulMcC186]

 

[Murdoch]

  On 05/06/2025 at 11:10, PaulMcC186 said:

 

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It's a really difficult one this for me. It annoys the hell out of me that I can't get tickets anymore (even if you're a member and get the past the 1st hurdle in the ballot), but at the same time these overpriced tickets contribute to us buying the likes of Wirtz at over £100m.

Ultimately the match day atmosphere is going to continue suffering. Too many are going to 'experience' the Anfield atmosphere without realising that they need to contribute to it.

[PaulMcC186]

  On 05/06/2025 at 12:24, Murdoch said:

It's a really difficult one this for me. It annoys the hell out of me that I can't get tickets anymore (even if you're a member and get the past the 1st hurdle in the ballot), but at the same time these overpriced tickets contribute to us buying the likes of Wirtz at over £100m.

Ultimately the match day atmosphere is going to continue suffering. Too many are going to 'experience' the Anfield atmosphere without realising that they need to contribute to it.

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I think ticket money is very small in comparison to TV money. We don't need to sell loads of corporate/hospitality to buy Wirtz.

[Murdoch]

  On 05/06/2025 at 12:35, PaulMcC186 said:

I think ticket money is very small in comparison to TV money. We don't need to sell loads of corporate/hospitality to buy Wirtz.

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It all adds up though. Say you've got 10k seats for the 19 league home games that you can make an extra £100 on by making hospitality (it's likely more than that). You're talking £19m a year - over a 5 year contract that covers £95m.

[Gethin]

  On 05/06/2025 at 12:35, PaulMcC186 said:

I think ticket money is very small in comparison to TV money. We don't need to sell loads of corporate/hospitality to buy Wirtz.

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Ticket revenue isn't "very small"  compared to broadcast revenue - it's about half. It's the commercial revenue which is the massive earner these days. 

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/lfc-announces-financial-results-2023-24-season

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Summary of the financial period

• Media revenue fell by £38 million to £204 million
• Matchday revenue rose by £22 million to £102 million
• Commercial revenue rose by £36 million to £308 million
• Administrative costs rose by £38 million to £600 million
• Overall revenue rose by £20 million to £614 million

 

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The club's argument here will be that by charging those outrageous prices, those 12k seats bring in as much, if not more, revenue than the other 48k seats.  

So they have their place as a revenue generator, but if the club binned off half of them - which they should - they'd lose about £20m per season (£25-30m at hospitality prices replaced by £5-7m at normal prices).

I'd say that's a price worth paying myself, very much doubt FSG will see it that way. 

[maldini11]

  On 30/05/2025 at 19:16, Atticus Finch said:

 

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  On 30/05/2025 at 19:16, Atticus Finch said:

 

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  On 30/05/2025 at 19:16, Atticus Finch said:

Even Rodgers did well to start with. What has become clear from his career is he is good at riding the wave, but pretty useless once he falls off it

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It helps when you have prime Luis Suarez firing on all cylinders 

Edited Friday at 01:44 by maldini11

[growler]

No different to an airline I think. The first and business class cover and subsidise economy. 

the key point though, is regardless of where you sit, you get in the ground, you stay there until the final whistle and you contribute to the atmosphere. Don’t care if you need to google the words, grateful you go to the shop and buy the food. But be part of it, don’t just watch it.

and goes without saying, prices and access for locals needs to be top priority. 

[PaulMcC186]

  On 06/06/2025 at 23:44, growler said:

No different to an airline I think. The first and business class cover and subsidise economy. 

the key point though, is regardless of where you sit, you get in the ground, you stay there until the final whistle and you contribute to the atmosphere. Don’t care if you need to google the words, grateful you go to the shop and buy the food. But be part of it, don’t just watch it.

and goes without saying, prices and access for locals needs to be top priority. 

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There's no economy tickets for football. They're all far too expensive. Maybe the prices are fine for someone who goes once every few years, and maybe that's what the club wants, no regular fans.

[Kvarme Ate My Food]

The most expensive tickets don’t “cover and subsidise” the other tickets. That’s just forelock-tugging. 

[muleskinner]

30 quid for away tickets isn't too bad,  lMO.

[Greenoak]

I just wish the club would sell the unsold hospitality seats to members say 48 or 24 hours before the game.

The club may sell all of them for the weekend games, but no way are they selling them all for midweek games

[Atticus Finch]

  On 08/06/2025 at 08:58, Kvarme Ate My Food said:

The most expensive tickets don’t “cover and subsidise” the other tickets. That’s just forelock-tugging. 

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Indeed. They just generate much more profit

[PaulMcC186]

  On 08/06/2025 at 09:06, muleskinner said:

30 quid for away tickets isn't too bad,  lMO.

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Aye, that's reasonable enough to be fair. 60 quid for a normal seat in parts of Anfield is mad, though. I suppose people could just not pay it but it's not as if you can pick another football team.

  On 08/06/2025 at 09:16, Greenoak said:

I just wish the club would sell the unsold hospitality seats to members say 48 or 24 hours before the game.

The club may sell all of them for the weekend games, but no way are they selling them all for midweek games

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Apparently there was 1000 empty seats for Spurs. 

[Ombudsam]

  On 08/06/2025 at 12:38, PaulMcC186 said:

Aye, that's reasonable enough to be fair. 60 quid for a normal seat in parts of Anfield is mad, though. I suppose people could just not pay it but it's not as if you can pick another football team.

 

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Aye. It’s why so many of these d****eads who want to pretend they are top business people and overlay it on to football are t***s.

The same rules don’t apply and where else do you have an inbuilt captive audience? You’re a custodian providing a civic service. Clubs at their core are community projects.

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[Frosty Jack]

  On 08/06/2025 at 12:56, Ombudsam said:

Aye. It’s why so many of these d****eads who want to pretend they are top business people and overlay it on to football are t***s.

The same rules don’t apply and whereas do you have an inbuilt captive audience. You’re a custodian providing a civic service. Clubs at their core are community projects.

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It’s akin to “the country needs to be run like a business”, reductive Thatcherite nonsense.

[WillG]

  On 08/06/2025 at 12:38, PaulMcC186 said:

Aye, that's reasonable enough to be fair. 60 quid for a normal seat in parts of Anfield is mad, though. I suppose people could just not pay it but it's not as if you can pick another football team.

Apparently there was 1000 empty seats for Spurs. 

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That's outrageous

[Gethin]

I think I’ve said this before, but there should be a queue at the ground selling any unsold hospitality seats - for, say £30 a pop. Queue opens two hours before the game. Would massively favour locals unless you’re prepared to travel to the ground on spec.