Foreign Ownership

pipnasty · February 10, 2009

Apart from our very own problems, what other Premiership teams are currently having problems with foreign owners?

Is there a problem with foreign ownership per se, or are we currently having bad luck with the type of investor investing in our clubs?

I didn't realise that the Bundesliga had banned foreign investors from owning more than 50% of a club in Germany.

What say you?

Gomez · February 10, 2009

I am not really sure the nationality of Hicks and Gillet is the problem, we could just as easily be leveraged into a world of debt and mis-management by a pair of British idiots too.

Eskimo · February 10, 2009

Yep a t***'s a t*** no matter what..

Sir Tokyo Sexwale · February 10, 2009

Football clubs are businesses. Can't see a problem with anyone of any nationality owning them. Going further - there shouldn't be anything stopping a club from relocating a la MK Dons. Controversial, I know, and I'd hate for Liverpool to do it, but nothing's stopping any other company relocating.

And refs should be able to ref wherever. We could ship all of our s*** out to Germany or Italy

pipnasty · February 10, 2009

Platini (c***) said this;

"I would be worried if I were English because of all the foreign ownership. They could be rich people coming to help English football and develop it, but they may just want to make money. I fear your clubs will lose identity. If it was in France, I would fight it."

What's he talking about?

Graham Taylor says that;

"They [foreign owners] are not in it for the good of the game.

"It would most certainlly kill our game. We have almost half [of Premier League clubs] in the hands of foreign owners at the moment and if you have 15 people from different clubs in an agreement you can attempt to change a rule in the League."

"If there are a few more foreign owners, then clubs might decide to play somewhere where 100,000 people would turn up. Manchester United could be stationed in Dubai, for example."

Is he right?

Xenophobic nonsense or a real concern?

Sir Tokyo Sexwale · February 10, 2009

English owners could decamp to Dubai. Why blame johnny foreigner?

FFS, MK Dons were the first (and only) to do it - move - who owns them? Probably foreigners

smithdown · February 10, 2009

Xenophobic nonsense?

Mostly. Although in the former Juventus signing Platini's case he's obviously playing politics. I bet he'd be feckin made up if someone wanted to invest in the crappy french league.

Knox_Harrington · February 10, 2009

Football clubs are businesses.

Football is a sport. There have to be rules in the game that apply to the game that wouldn't apply to businesses.

Gunga Din · February 10, 2009

Apart from our very own problems, what other Premiership teams are currently having problems with foreign owners?

Is there a problem with foreign ownership per se, or are we currently having bad luck with the type of investor investing in our clubs?

I didn't realise that the Bundesliga had banned foreign investors from owning more than 50% of a club in Germany.

What say you?

the German league is s**** and getting worse by the year. All the German FA are doing is slowly killing off their clubs competitiveness in Europe

Sir Tokyo Sexwale · February 10, 2009

Football is a sport. There have to be rules in the game that apply to the game that wouldn't apply to businesses.

there are - i.e. players can't hand in their notice etc, but limiting foreign ownership is daft

Knox_Harrington · February 10, 2009

there are - i.e. players can't hand in their notice etc, but limiting foreign ownership is daft

I don't see why.

EDIT: Other than the stable door, bolting horse element.

Edited February 10, 2009 by Knox_Harrington

Sir Tokyo Sexwale · February 10, 2009

why what? Foreign ownership?

It assumes 'foreigners' don't/won't understand the clubs, won't care as much etc

Knox_Harrington · February 10, 2009

why what? Foreign ownership?

It assumes 'foreigners' don't/won't understand the clubs, won't care as much etc

Thus far evidence is strongly pointing in that direction.

However, it doesn't have to do that. Simply that football clubs are an permanent part of the culture of a society and we expect their upkeep to be of a proper level. We have rules over who can own certain other cultural things in society and what they can do with them (i.e. Listed Buildings) and football clubs are as critical a part of British cultural life as the National Trust properties are. Protecting them makes sense. How you do it is another conversation perhaps.

Gunga Din · February 10, 2009

if FIFA grew a set of balls and passed rules where clubs could only use their own money/turnover, then i think that would help massively

Knox_Harrington · February 10, 2009

if FIFA grew a set of balls and passed rules where clubs could only use their own money/turnover, then i think that would help massively

The rules have to be worldwide or at least Europewide at this stage.

Chili Palmer · February 10, 2009

its irrelevant where the owners are from, its the type of person they are that counts, we got evil greedy b******s, Villa got someone who understands.

Sir Tokyo Sexwale · February 10, 2009

if FIFA grew a set of balls and passed rules where clubs could only use their own money/turnover, then i think that would help massively

there needs to be a more equal share of the wealth among the smaller clubs too

Gunga Din · February 10, 2009

The rules have to be worldwide or at least Europewide at this stage.

aye, thats why i said FIFA. it has to be global.

Gunga Din · February 10, 2009

there needs to be a more equal share of the wealth among the smaller clubs too

agree 100%

Knox_Harrington · February 10, 2009

aye, thats why i said FIFA. it has to be global.

I don't agree. Not immediately. There can be very specific rules about what qualifies you for European Cup entries, for instance.

Knox_Harrington · February 10, 2009

its irrelevant where the owners are from, its the type of person they are that counts, we got evil greedy b******s, Villa got someone who understands.

I think it is less likely that someone with community ties will be the sort to murder a club than someone with them. It's certainly a way of minimising the damage. Lerner is, broadly speaking, the only positive example.

Ripley · February 10, 2009

the German league is s**** and getting worse by the year. All the German FA are doing is slowly killing off their clubs competitiveness in Europe

The quality may be a matter of opinion. The sound financial management, club ownership, supporter participation and pricing should really make it the model to aspire to.

The Premier League is better than the Bundesliga why? Answer in one word.

Chili Palmer · February 10, 2009

The Premier League is better than the Bundesliga why? Answer in one word.

Liverpool

Ed the Wool · February 10, 2009

The quality may be a matter of opinion. The sound financial management, club ownership, supporter participation and pricing should really make it the model to aspire to.

The Premier League is better than the Bundesliga why? Answer in one word.

Spondoolics

Gunga Din · February 10, 2009

The quality may be a matter of opinion. The sound financial management, club ownership, supporter participation and pricing should really make it the model to aspire to.

The Premier League is better than the Bundesliga why? Answer in one word.

its a matter of fact, not opinion

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