Slack Bladder

[Guest RedLegend]

Fifa president Sepp Blatter has again reiterated his plans to implement the 'six plus five' rule in the Premier League.

 

 

 

Blatter's latest call follows his observation that English clubs have recently dominated the UEFA Champions League.

 

 

For the last two seasons, there have been three Premier League sides in the last-four of Europe's elite club competition

 

 

Blatter is keen to limit the number of foreign players in England's top flight, forcing sides to start every match with at least six England-qualified players.

 

 

The Frenchman is to seek a mandate from the Fifa Congress later this month to begin talks with the European Union and football's authorities over implementing the 'six plus five' rule.

 

 

 

National inequality

 

 

Blatter said: "Shall we let the rich become richer and say nothing?

 

 

"The big money is coming out of the Champions League - it's the biggest league in the world and practically 80 per cent of the income goes to the directly to the 32 participating clubs.

 

 

"This season, there were four English teams in the last eight, three in the semi-finals and two in the final.

 

 

"The Champions League has been very successful financially but it has also favoured national inequality. That's why, being in charge of football, I have to bring this item to the attention of the Congress.

 

 

"This is the sporting situation but let us start with our idea of the 'six plus five' rule and then we will see what the difference will be in the future.

 

 

"This rule will be fighting against the monopolies of clubs and leagues. But we are not fighting the problem of money but for the identity of national teams."

 

 

In order for a cap to be legal, Fifa will need the European Union to agree to make sport an exception to its employment laws, which guarantee freedom of movement for its citizens.

 

 

 

Brazilian concerns

 

 

Fifa will also look to extend the residency period to five years before a player can represent another country - in some countries the period is currently as short as two years.

 

 

Blatter added: "After only a two-year period, a player can receive nationality from another country and there is a danger that in 2014 half the players in the World Cup could come from Brazil!

 

 

"That's why the executive committee will propose to the Congress that only after five years being resident that a player can become a 'football citizen'."

[theredfella]

In order for a cap to be legal, Fifa will need the European Union to agree to make sport an exception to its employment laws, which guarantee freedom of movement for its citizens.

 

Therein lies the pitfall for that corrupt piece of rotten vermin; there's no way that the EU will let it through. Change the rules for one and all and sundry will want changes to the law for their problems.

 

The sooner that c*nt is out of office, so much the better for the game in general.

[fyds]

Therein lies the pitfall for that corrupt piece of rotten vermin; there's no way that the EU will let it through. Change the rules for one and all and sundry will want changes to the law for their problems.

 

The sooner that c*nt is out of office, so much the better for the game in general.

Oh yes.

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

So - look to fix the 'problem' buy intorducing quotas. Any GCSE Economics student can tell you this is a backwards way of looking at it.

 

How about addressing the issue of the gross inequality of cash going into the EC & its split? how about eliminating seeding - whereby you attempt to ensure the best go farthest, thereby earning more & getting stronger? How about eliminating country protection etc? An open free-for-all draw would be a start. So would a percentage of the EC revenue going to lower tier clubs from all participating nations

[Gunga Din]

So - look to fix the 'problem' buy intorducing quotas. Any GCSE Economics student can tell you this is a backwards way of looking at it.

 

How about addressing the issue of the gross inequality of cash going into the EC & its split? how about eliminating seeding - whereby you attempt to ensure the best go farthest, thereby earning more & getting stronger? How about eliminating country protection etc? An open free-for-all draw would be a start. So would a percentage of the EC revenue going to lower tier clubs from all participating nations

 

 

indeed

[MFletcher]

If this is enforced, I look forward to the big four bidding £20M a piece for Stewart Downing.

 

All on the basis that he's the only reasonably decent left-sided midfielder in the country who's English.

[Tosh]

so Blatter is in charge of a regime which allows the richest clubs to hijack the European Cup for their own benefit so as to avoid a European League

 

And then cries foul when the same richest clubs do well out of it.

 

Odd how he said nowt when Dortmund won it... or when Marseille were doing OK (illegally) or when two Spanish clubs reached the final.

 

Feckwit

Edited May 7, 2008 by Tosh

[Guest Kaizer]

Odd how he said nowt when Dortmund won it... or when Marseille were doing OK (illegally) or when two Spanish clubs reached the final.

 

Feckwit

 

The difference is the amount of foreign players in the PL and the clubs from England in the CL and how it works for the rest of Europe.

 

I agree with Blatter, I dont think a football team from a specific country should be able to a field a team without players from that exact country.

 

I`ve said so for a couple of years now.

[Gunga Din]

so Blatter is in charge of a regime which allows the richest clubs to hijack the European Cup for their own benefit so as to avoid a European League

 

And then cries foul when the same richest clubs do well out of it.

 

Odd how he said nowt when Dortmund won it... or when Marseille were doing OK (illegally) or when two Spanish clubs reached the final.

 

Feckwit

 

 

Aye, or AC Milan bribing refs but still allowed to take part.

[MFletcher]

AC didn't bribe referees.

 

I'm pretty sure the offence they were "convicted" of was fairly inconsequential - evidenced by the fact that they were only docked points and not relegated like Juve et al originally were.

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

The difference is the amount of foreign players in the PL and the clubs from England in the CL and how it works for the rest of Europe.

 

I agree with Blatter, I dont think a football team from a specific country should be able to a field a team without players from that exact country.

 

I`ve said so for a couple of years now.

are you for real?

[Guest Kaizer]

are you for real?

 

Come back to me in 10 years time, when there is almost no English players playing in the PL, that will be the most likely outcome of this development.

 

With foreigners now also filling up the places in the youth teams.

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

you work in England, right?

[Guest Kaizer]

Taken from an article back from September, 2007.

 

There were only 11 non-Britons playing in Premier League football when it started 14 years ago. Now there are 340.

 

The first foreign manager was Czech born Dr Jozef Venglos, who joined Aston Villa in 1990, and the first club owner from abroad was Egyptian - Mohamed Al Fayed at Fulham.

 

Five Premiership sides are currently managed by non-Britons, and nine clubs are owned by foreigners. It was reported that Russian Roman Abramovich paid ฃ150 million for Chelsea, and could resell the club now for more than three times that much.

 

Perhaps Thaksin Shinawatra had something like that in mind when he acquired Manchester City. Only time will tell.

 

After accruing huge financial benefit from working in the English game, foreigners seem to put little back into it. High-flying Arsenal has a French manager who tends to ignore home-grown talent, and from the four leading clubs of last season - three of which were managed by foreigners - only 13 players were eligible for England's national squad.

 

It has come to the point when promising English footballers can't get a game in their own country's top flight, and it must be money that drove a London club to change much of its squad in close-season transfers after just winning two major trophies.

 

For spectators, rising turnstile prices and pay-by-view cable make football more expensive to watch, while priority is given to public relations and sales of shirts, scarves, photos, books, magazines, DVDs and other memorabilia.

 

Bill Shankly was talking about the love of club, country and the game, but too many of today's entrepreneurs are led by market forces. Today the English Premier League is exploited like a must-have, gimmicky, household commodity.

 

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With such an increase in 14 years, how do you think it will look like in 10-15 years down the line?

 

Genuine question, and do you think this is the way forward for football in England?

[johngibo YPC]

Come back to me in 10 years time, when there is almost no English players playing in the PL, that will be the most likely outcome of this development.

 

With foreigners now also filling up the places in the youth teams.

 

Will Liverpool be winning everything?

Cos thats all i give a flying f*** about

[Eskimo]

If people have an issue with the number of "foreigner" they should look no further than the FA. They grow fat off the back of the PL (with all its foreigners and Sky money) yet invest feck all back.

[MFletcher]

The reason English players aren't 'getting a chance' is because they aren't good enough.

 

End of discussion.

[Redwire]

Will Liverpool be winning everything?

Cos thats all i give a flying f*** about

 

Exactly. Anyway, the first ever Liverpool team were all foreigners.

[Guest Kaizer]

The reason English players aren't 'getting a chance' is because they aren't good enough.

 

End of discussion.

 

To reach the highest level you have to compete on the highest level, in other words you need to be given a chance to succeed playing with the best players.

 

Its like a ladder where you will only improve if you are able to train and play together with players that are better than you, if not you will stagnate.

 

Do you think Carra would be given the chance under Rafa as a young boy?

 

Personally I doubt it.

Edited May 8, 2008 by Kaizer

[Gomez]

At least he's being honest about his reasons and not pretending it is to do with magically improving the strength of the national team like that c**t Platini.

 

If it does come into effect, it will be an opt in, and the English clubs will never opt in.

[drdooom]

Exactly. Anyway, the first ever Liverpool team were all foreigners.

 

1986 FA Cup final had no England players in the starting lineup either. Foreign manager too. Disgrace!

Edited May 8, 2008 by drcrouchy

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

To reach the highest level you have to compete on the highest level, in other words you need to be given a chance to succeed playing with the best players.

 

Its like a ladder where you will only improve if you are able to train and play together with players that are better than you, if not you will stagnate.

 

Do you think Carra would be given the chance under Rafa as a young boy?

 

Personally I doubt it.

Ah - those heady days of the 70s when England were so successful.

 

You sound like Murph - "Kick out Johnny-foreigner"

 

A football club is a business. Just like a bank, a car manufacturer or whatever. Should the City of London kick out all immigrant workers?

[Bailo]

Spain and Italy have had periods of dominance in the last 10 years, no word then.

[Bailo]

Will Liverpool be winning everything?

Cos thats all i give a flying f*** about

Kaizer owes you £5

[Guest Kaizer]

Spain and Italy have had periods of dominance in the last 10 years, no word then.

 

The majority of players in the teams were homegrown players, thats the difference.

 

Lets take a look at the teams last time one country had both finalists.

 

02/03: Juventus - Milan 0-0

- Juventus, 6 Italian players in the starting line up, 12 Italian players in the 18 man squad, Italian coach.

- Milan, 6 Italian players in the starting line up, 9 Italian players in the 18 man squad, Italian coach.

 

Thats 21 Italian players in the two squads.

99/00: Real Madrid - Vaslencia 3-0

- Real M, 7 Spanish players in the starting line up, 9 Spanish players in the 18 man squad, Spanish coach.

-Valencia, 6 Spanish players in the starting line up, 11 Spanish players in the 18 man squad, Spanish coach.

 

Thats 20 Spanish players in the two squads.

 

How do people think this will look like in this seasons final?

Edited May 8, 2008 by Kaizer