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I'd put money on that. Him having written it I mean - everyone knows he's a sneering manc. "Desperately mediocre" my a***. EDIT: just had a quick look at the guardian site and surprise, surprise - the "5 things we learned" is a blog entry by Rob Smyth.

They wouldn't be responsible for the debt IMO - their risk is that the shares they buy become worthless if the club goes bankrupt. There may be additional risks involved but this is where I bail and leave things to the experts.

They issue new shares and sell those. It dilutes their holding, but they don't need to sell anything. For the sake of argument, say there are 100 shares of LFC in existence, 50 of which are owned by Stattler and Waldorf each. If they issue another 50, they'll each own 33% of the club rather than 50%, but they won't have sold anything. If all 50 new shares go to the same person, that person then also owns 33%.

Surely Ayala's worth a shout at CB?

Seriously: tonight is a turning point, no matter what else happens. We were staring into the abyss, to quote the Guardian headline from Wednesday morning and we're not any more. I guess what you might be saying is that it might be a meaningless turning point unless we win the league which I don't agree with either: whatever position we end up in, it would've been worse if we hadn't won tonight. (Well technically that's not true if we finish bottom of the league but...)

three at the back again?

Just a text off a mate but FWIW: Reina, Johnson, Carragher, Agger, Insua; Benayoun, Lucas, Mascherano, Aurelio; Kuyt, Torres. Usual caveat: I trust the mate but I have no idea where he got this from.

Also, why come out with it now? It'll just be fuel to the "he's always looking for excuses" brigade...

given our injury news, sabotaging the floodlights or the pitch or something and getting the game abandoned might be our best option

and here's Rafa: http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N...091008-1132.htm nothing much to see TBH but I'm bored at work

Carra's own take on his form and the back 4 as a whole: http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N...091008-0810.htm

IMO it is 20-20 hindsight to say that Houllier should've been removed a year earlier than he was. 02/03 was his first season where it went backwards rather than forwards and IMO he deserved one season to try and turn it around. The turnaround didn't happen, so it was time for him to go when he did.

I think it would enhance the ressie league no end if managers HAD to play. Imagine, if Jay Spearing had the chance of putting a reducer on SAF...

I'll give you that if we can say Drogba has the most kickable balls.

:applause:

OK, Gerrard didn't take that last corner, so that was good, but Torres taking them instead is not the solution

Crouch against Arsenal

Chants of "There's only one Peter Ridsdale" - that's our lot surely?

Mark Bright, that is.

Found the podcast on iTunes, but for some reason I only get episode 10 edit: ignore, I'm obviously to stupid to use pod casts. Must be an age thing, it was videos for me dad...

That's what I thought but I think they changed the rules: UEFA If I read this right then you get suspended after your 3rd and there's no expiry.

Absolute quality.

Voronin for Kuyt - I'd have thought Torres would be the one to come off rather than Mr Duracell

Degen about to come on for his Premiership debut