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Roy was arguing with a bloke in the Paddock during the game yesterday. Not a good sign.

Sounds like Roy is at it too. "The criticism levelled against the depth of the squad I can understand," he said. "People saw the squad playing on Wednesday night, we lost the game and people will make their own conclusions."

"I, like anyone at Liverpool Football Club, would be very happy if the ownership situation got clarified, and in particular if we got a very good owner that can help us move forward," he said. "It (the protest) doesn't help but is something I've had to live with since I came to the club. "It is a major issue for a group of people who are very much anti the owners and the current people who are trying to solve the situation. "It is often the case that when things are conspiring against you there is always an extra thing to come in and make it that little bit worse. "It tests our mettle, our desire and strength. I am very confident the strength of this club, the strength of the playing staff and the people around me is more than enough for the club to come through this period. "But while you are in that period it is unpleasant." http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6397318,00.html

Best one yet this. I'll do whatever. Wouldn't work for us in the Paddock. There's only room for a couple of dozen behind there.

Have we f*ck. Do you actually watch the games?

Just start posting up his real comments interspersed with yours. See if anyone spots the difference.

Nah, Kev's just completely f*cking mental. He was calling for someone to kill Hicks the other day. He should do it himself. His post history would guarantee a successful defence of the grounds of insanity.

Swipe, you might as well give up right now. You just can't beat the real thing.

Tom Hicks plans for return of his son to Liverpool • Fans' hate-figure part of bid to keep control of club • No buyer imminent as owners seek profit on sale * David Conn * The Guardian, Saturday 18 September 2010 Tom Hicks's last-ditch attempt to retain control of Liverpool is likely to be opposed even more vehemently than previously thought, as the American's proposals are understood to include a plan to restore his son, Tom Hicks Jr, to the Anfield operation. Hicks Jr resigned in January as a director of Liverpool and its parent company, Kop Holdings, after an abusive exchange with a supporter, to whom he retorted in an email: "Blow me f*** face." The news that Hicks Sr, co-owner of Liverpool with George Gillett, was in London discussing raising loans to replace Liverpool's £237m bank debts and thereby keep control already alarmed supporters this week. Liverpool's three directors besides Hicks and Gillett – the chairman, Martin Broughton, the managing director, Christian Purslow, and the commercial director, Ian Ayre – are expected to oppose any refinancing of the club's debts presented by Hicks Sr, on more onerous terms than the interest Liverpool currently pay. The revelation that Hicks is planning to bring back his son will further inflame the anger harboured by many Liverpool fans against their club's American owners. Hicks Sr, whose representative would not confirm any details, was said to be in talks this week with GSO, a division of the private equity firm Blackstone which, according to its website, specialises in debt-based lending to "stressed and distressed securities". Liverpool's loans, understood to be around £180m owed to the Royal Bank of Scotland and £57m to Wells Fargo, are due to be repaid next month, although later than 6 October, which has generally been understood to be deadline day. Broughton has been trying to sell the club, which would see the loans repaid in full, but his hoped-for target date of the end of August has passed and no deal is realistically on the horizon. The sudden spectre of Hicks obtaining an offer of new finance from GSO or another lender, to replace the loans from RBS and Wells Fargo at more burdensome interest rates, is expected to be opposed by the board majority. The three directors are likely to argue it would place the club in a worse financial position, and therefore not be in its best interests. Broughton, Purslow and Ayre are understood to have blocked another proposed refinancing presented by Hicks in June, and obtained advice from the City law firm Slaughter and May that they had legal authority to do so. Observers of the process believe Hicks's discussions are an effort to retain control of Liverpool before RBS's loans expire, and are unlikely to deliver a better deal for the club. Hicks and Gillett promised to usher Liverpool to a more prosperous future when they took over in February 2007, saying theirs was not a "Glazer-style" debt-laden deal, and they would build the club the long-planned new stadium on neighbouring Stanley Park. It soon became clear the £185m they borrowed to buy Liverpool was indeed being made the club's responsibility to repay, and the stadium project has not even been started. As Liverpool's cherished status in English football slides, Anfield supporters have become increasingly vociferous in their campaign for Hicks and Gillett to go. Broughton is said to have been unable to find a buyer so far because Gillett and particularly Hicks are seeking a large profit personally on the £185m cost of buying the club. A new buyer will have to pay the £237m debts in full, so a major profit to Hicks and Gillett – the figure of $600m (£390m) has been cited – makes a purchase hugely expensive, with the stadium, possibly costing £450m, to build as well. The difficulty of finding a buyer while Hicks and Gillett can set the price, and the likelihood that any refinancing will be blocked by the other three board members, means the spotlight is turning on what RBS will do if its loans are still outstanding at the October repayment deadline. The bank, which collapsed in the financial crisis and is 84% owned by the British taxpayer, has always stressed it does not want to take control of Liverpool. It may instead offer to renew the loans, but with conditions attached requiring Hicks and Gillett to sell above a certain defined price. All of which, as Liverpool prepare for their momentous visit to face Manchester United at Old Trafford tomorrow, depicts a club a very long way from healthy. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/sep/18/tom-hicks-liverpool

Pretty much spot on all of that, especially the Kyriakos shout. If we're going to be dropping off so much he should be first choice. Roy really isn't doing himself any with those idiotic comments about low expectations. Hopefully someone will have a word.

I think we will be attempting to win. I reckon we will win as well. Probably won't be pretty though. Hope we press a bit this time.

It was 78, Brazil scored the disallowed goal and the ref was Welsh but apart from that you were spot on Macca. Three out of four league games so far isn't it? Wenger's whinging having its intended effect.

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1. N/A 2. Yes but probably N/A 3. Yes 4. ST holder but I'm not going to cup games for the first time ever. Would be willing to leave my seat empty for a targeted league game boycott. 5. Not buying any club merchandise or buying anything in the ground.

Holding generally happens more in man to man than zonal marking with players desperate to stay close to their man.

They mentioned this before the game today. Terrible thing to go through. He's raising awareness about bone marrow donation. There's a piece on the LFC website. Liverpool goalkeeper Brad Jones is urging anyone heading to the Mathew Street Festival tomorrow to drop in at the Town Hall between 11am and 2pm to find out about joining the bone marrow register. Brad's son Luca was recently diagnosed with leukaemia and urgently needs a lifesaving bone marrow transplant. Anyone aged between 18 and 40 can join the Anthony Nolan register. Joining is easy - you just give a small saliva sample. If you are a match for a patient like Luca you could save someone's life. For more details see the Anthony Nolan website. http://www.anthonynolan.org/News/Latest-stories/Join-the-Anthony-Nolan-Register-at-the-Mathew-Stre.aspx

Probably because he and Giggs had something beautiful going on. Probably worried he'll be pining.

So am I but I'm making it back for our game on Sunday. You out celebrating with the players after?

He was on the bench.

Mabe, though the same Echo report said that he did refuse to play.

According to the Echo we haven't even fined him.