And you do? Okay, smart-a***, let’s say I think he’s worth £12m (which I don’t) and you think he’s worth £5m. Where do we go from there? Great debate. Well done. TBH I don’t know if Torres is worth £40m or £80m. He’s worth whatever someone is prepared to pay for him (not that we should even consider it!). Regarding the loan, it’s not such a no-brainer. We might have to pay a fee to secure the loan. In addition, we have to pay his wages. All of that may impact on our ability to buy a player for the long-term come the summer. I agree, we can and should debate players’ abilities but I am making a critical comment about the fact that some people are making a determination on what certain players are worth based on pure guesswork. People called Rafa mad for paying £7m for Crouch. He ended up being a good signing and we ended making a £4m profit. What’s not to say that won’t happen with Jones?