I really don't want to do this s*** but Giggs has 17 major honours and nearly 150 goals in English football - he has played at the top level for 15 years and scored in every season of the Premiership and scored in each one. Macca was a greedy t*** who played well in an under preforming side. He f***ed off to Real were he won two CL medals when they were pretty much buying up leagues and CL similar to the way Chelsea (not CL as yet, thankfully) are at the moment and I know how much people credit Chelsea with winning things round here.