Damian_de

I did have a look, as someone referenced it earlier, and the Carra's family thing was interesting (in a 'that's unexpected'-way), but he admits the Gerrard and Carra losing faith is merely guess work.

f***ing Tottenham? Get a grip, people. And we played better football than Arsenal the past 3 seasons (this one not, for sure).

Asking for Dalglish is basically looking for your mummy's t**. 'I need to feel better, and I need to feel better now.' And therefore it doesn't surprise me that it's a popular opinion No denying the man's legendary status, but huge questions over whether he could deliver anything but a feel good factor, and huge questions about whether he'd let himself be played to Rafa's detriment also.

It's also important to remember that while we're turning profits in transfer windows we're also making a massive effort to shift wages... don't think you'll find we are dwarfing Spurs any more, and are certainly behind both Mancs, and Chelsea..

No mention of Sacchi yet? I like his thinking on generalists vs specialists (he believes the proliferation of specialist players is to the detriment of the team) Kind of weird that he was at Real for Galacticos round 1, in that case.

Yes. All the evidence shows the link between money and success in this league - specifically massive wage bill and success. We're shifting cost off our wage bill dramatically at the same time as not reinvesting transfer income. We have a few top earners, of course, but the trend is down, and thats your straight forward recipe for disaster.

What about, the owners don't sack him, we get some investment, buy some quality and win the league 10 seasons straight, completing a record busting 8 straight CL wins? Not saying I think that's all likely, but merely to illustrate the weakness of becoming so entrenched in your position. If nothing will change your mind, why don't you chill out and go read a book or something?

You are mental, I'm sorry. 1) Moyes has no credentials to suggest he's a better manager than Rafa. 2) Like f*** would he sign for us. 3) We do not have a pot to piss in. And if you believe we do, then there is nothing anyone can do to help you see some sense. I do agree with you on one thing, though, which is that the effort this season is well below acceptable.

And that there is the thing. AT THE MOMENT Everton are playing better than us, I completely agree. For the first time since? I'm not referring to the quoted poster here, but this place is Sky Sports instant gratification madness in many cases. It's pathetic that people just can't handle a bit of rough with all the smooth of the last few seasons.

Where's the evidence of that?

And if you needed any more evidence this a WUM post there it is

When have we ever played well at Wigan, though? Shambles this evening. No excuses for Rafa - don't want him sacked though. He's still not the problem at the club, and he isn't ever gonna be while those 2 rape us.

Yossi with a Pele move

Livid about Pacheco, Kelly, Amoo and so on. Even though thats not a confirmed team.

"That story's actually about Bobby Moore, isn't it?" It may well be, but I'm not having it the KK didn't know who he was (or Jack Charlton for that matter)

It really is amazing that Rafa hasn't figured out how simple it all is yet. Stick that in your stats, Rafa!

Agger and Carra is still a great unit, even if neither has really hit peak form this season (although... I think Carra has had some excellent, and some useless performances, so maybe he has briefly got there). I think with Agger its form, several years with long term injuries, and I think, if he can stay basically fit, he'll get back to his best. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see Carra keep going for many more seasons to come also. Certainly Rafa doesn't seem to have any problems playing defenders well into their 30s if they are physically up to it.

HAHAHAHAHAHA. Of course they don't.

What does it say?

This takes me back to the days of Houllier, SHx2 at the back - I never used to worry when we were under pressure like this. Bit different today...

Brilliant! Maxi gets called by that lino

Dirk playing well in there.

Is this pressing, or is this cream Lucas everytime he touches the ball?